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  Simon Smith February 20, 2012 at 10:29pm

  Real sorry for the shameless bump but anyone any comments?
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  phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com February 22, 2012 at 6:45am

  the trouble with tyring to make a fence like this with softwood is going to be in the winter it will expand with all the wet weather and in the summer it is going to shrink and you will end up with gaps in the joints, then you will be called back to try to fix the problem, this is why they are normaly made out of hard wood, using softwood would be the same as laying decking you need to leave a 5mm gap to alloy expansion.
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  Tim Haywood February 22, 2012 at 7:07am

  You could make the centre into a "floating" panel. Have a rebated frame all the way around, fix each piece of tongue and groove to each other but not to the frame itself - they just sit in the slot. As long as the rebate is deep enough any expansion would move into this.
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  phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com February 22, 2012 at 7:40pm

  another thing you might think of taking into account, the time it is going to take to make them and the price of the timber in the first place, it would probably be easier and cheeper to just buy the hardwood panels already made, get the job finished off quicker and then move on to your next job
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  Simon Smith February 22, 2012 at 8:16pm

  thanks for all the thoughts much appreciated, I have been thinking carefully about the time to make them as there are 22 panels. After much though and discussion with my local fecning supplier i have come to a compromise of using a z shape profile so any movement will at least not show daylight through it. Even doing them this way with the cover and capping strips its going to be an expensive fence but the customer is an engineer and should understand.
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  Lawncare-4u.co.uk February 23, 2012 at 12:38am

  i agree ,  why not do it 'properly' and save your time/headache / money?   and  buy them from suppliers ???

  isnt that what they are for.    we have made a close-board fence today with gravel board, 3 rails and capping in brown treated wood , but i wood ;) not entertain making these...

  would the customer be willing to pay for your time and would they be as good quality as from a timberyard?

  fair play if you have a workshop and a week or so to make tongue & groove , but as stated above they rreally need to be some sort of harder wood ortherwise they will :  move / split/ rot & require lots of treatment , pressure treating at a yard or staining with preservative properly too give a guarantee  etc etc 

  
  phil smith said:

  another thing you might think of taking into account, the time it is going to take to make them and the price of the timber in the first place, it would probably be easier and cheeper to just buy the hardwood panels already made, get the job finished off quicker and then move on to your next job
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  Marcia Francis February 23, 2012 at 1:10pm

  Hi Simon

  We do solid softwood panels, that look similar to your picture and they come with our Jakcure 25yr guarantee;

  All our panels 1.83m wide and will/should slot into your posts;

  Chilham "Good Both Sides" panels  http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/fencing/fencing-panels/chilham/fe...

  Tongue and Groove Panels http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/fencing/fencing-panels/tongue-and...

  If you need a quotation, please do not hesitate to contact me.

  Kind regards

  Marcia

  07764 357181

  marcia.francis@jacksons-fencing.co.uk
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  Simon Smith February 23, 2012 at 6:16pm

  I would love to buy them off the shelf but my local fencing supplier won't make them up and i appreciate the offer Marcia but shipping 23 panels to belfast might be a little pricey.

  Unfortunately in northern ireland you take what you can get supplier-wise sometimes
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  Simon Smith May 5, 2012 at 9:15pm

  Thanks to all who contributed for help and suggestions, we went with a compromise in the end of standard closeboards with some purely aesthetic face and capping rails.

  Turned out well and they are very happy with it.

  

  
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  phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com May 5, 2012 at 10:04pm

  nice and tidy, very good job, now the moan, should have covered the concrete around the bottom of the post's with turf before the picture, just like me a bit impatient,lol