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How easy is it to match old and new driveway pavers?

A friend of mine had his driveway widened about 8 months ago.  The original driveway was laid about 15 years ago with pavers that are predominantly red.  When the driveway was widened, he was shown some sample pavers, all red, and chose the one that he thought was the best match.  When they were laid, they looked more yellow than red, and were smooth rather than pitted, but he was advised that the new ones needed "weathering" and that one could never get a perfect match of old and new pavers.

 

Is there any truth in that, or is the landscaper trying to pull a fast one?  If anything, as time goes on, the difference in colour and texture is getting more defined.

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  • PRO

    Hi Tim

    There could be some truth in what your friend's been told.

    It's very difficult to match the colour and texture of materials - even if they are supposed to be exactly the same - when there's been such a time gap.

    However, having said that, it's not unknown for a contractor to try and fob off a client by trying to convinced them that a particular material is a match to the original, when in fact it isn't.

    Given the length of time that's elapsed I'd say it would be a tricky task to get a complete match because it's possible manufacturing processes and colour dyes could have changed too.

    The only way your question could be answered accurately is if you obtained a series of photos or a video showing close-ups of the drive and the material and ask members to have a look.

    I'd understand if you didn't wish to do this in the open forum so I'm happy to help evaluate or you can ask a few members to help you via email.

    Hope this helps?

  • Thanks, Phil.

    I will see if I can get some photos for you to have a look at.

    Philip Voice said:

    Hi Tim

    There could be some truth in what your friend's been told.

    It's very difficult to match the colour and texture of materials - even if they are supposed to be exactly the same - when there's been such a time gap.

    However, having said that, it's not unknown for a contractor to try and fob off a client by trying to convinced them that a particular material is a match to the original, when in fact it isn't.

    Given the length of time that's elapsed I'd say it would be a tricky task to get a complete match because it's possible manufacturing processes and colour dyes could have changed too.

    The only way your question could be answered accurately is if you obtained a series of photos or a video showing close-ups of the drive and the material and asked members to have a look.

    I'd understand if you didn't wish to do this in the open forum so I'm happy to help evaluate or you can ask a few members to help you via email.

    Hope this helps?

  • I have found that when joining old and new concrete paving especially tegula type blocks it helps to spread sand and plate the old ones too, it's not mircalulous by any means but it seems to bring them up a little bit.

  • Red blocks do fade, especially after 15 years and the contrast with new would be stark.  Selecting a sample paver is dangerous as individual blocks vary greatly in a batch of brindle or autumn mix, for example.  I reckon the contractor has offered something like these to get more of a blend.  Pavers do become pitted with age and some of the aggregate becomes exposed - especially if they have been pressure washed occasionally. 

  • PRO

    Having now seen a photo of the existing drive with the newer spliced in extension, I'd say the pavers are not the same. I've suggested to Tim he gets further opinions from other LJN members via email

  • It's just not possible to accuratley match for all the reasons already listed. Weathered is very hard to replicate.  Could lift the entire drive and re-lay it mixing the old and new paving?

    There are companies that offer a 'brick tinting' service for brickwork with excellent results, not sure how the 'tint' would hold up on driveway paviors though?

    Rgds
    Paul @ POC Landscaping
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