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exploding fire pit?

Hi everyone, hope you can help. I am currently building a garden using tons of stone which has all been found on site. It's all local stone (Yorkshire) - a mix of sandstone and millstone grit.I have specified a fire pit in the design but haven't really thought how to build it and I have couple of concerns.Firstly I've heard horror stories of stone built BBQs exploding as the stone heats up but don't know what type of stone it was. has anyone used the above stone or know if it will explode. I've thought about getting a sheet steel insert fabricated so a grill can sit over the top of the fire -would this help or would it still transfer heat to the stone?Also if this stone can be used or if I use refractory brick is there anything I can do to the mortar to make it more heat resistant and stop it cracking?If anybody has any advice or other concerns, any comments would be appreciated.thank you, tom

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  • I assembled a preformed concrete type barbeque for a friend a few years ago using special fire cement as he had had previous problems with mortar cracking and breaking away, not sure if this is availiable in larger quantity packs than the tub I used though.
  • you could line the pit with Heat resistant bricks. these bricks retain the heat and would protect the stone.
  •  You can buy fire cement in large tubs but as far as im aware it always comes ready mixed and aint cheap , its the stuff you use for fixing stove pipes and chimneys together , i used it on a homemade woodburner in my workshop and its great stuff and has not cracked in 3 years of use .

     

     Best bet would be to build a small version of what you want and use it for a few nights to see if you have any problems with the stone cracking (i dont think you will have any problems with yorkshire stone though) ...

     

     Hope thats of some help .

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    A simple lime mortar would probably work (no cement). This is what was used in chimney building.
  • If its found in yorkshire - it could be one of two common types - Milstone Grit - the hard gritty sandstone places like Otley, and much of the stone buildings in leeds are made of - This will be find, its very tough. The softer finer grained sandstones - They will crumble with repeated use in a fire, I tend to find these as you head east.
  • Hi There,

     

    We supply Glass pebbles and Glass chippings which will take heat up to 1350 degrees before melting, they are also very decorative.

     

    Please see our range at www.recycledglassulster.com

     

    Thanks,

     

    Niall

     

  • Avoid contacting brick or stone with anything really hot  I have a scar under one eye from a brick that exploded whilst I was heating a bar on it with a blow torch. I count myself lucky not to have lost my sight.

    If I am hot forging, I place the heated items either on a steel plate on the concrete floor to cool or on a trestle.

    I would suggest an iron or steel fire pit with a lip round the top if it is to be sunk into the ground, support it by the top lip with an air gap under the lip made by supporting the lip on steel or iron packers. fill any unwanted gaps with fire cement. If the fire pit is above ground support it on steel legs, three legs are usually more stable than four.

    I have not made a fire pit so the advice I am giving is only general and based on my own expeience with hot metal and forge work.

  • Hi Tom, I would call experts such as www.urbangasfires.co.uk for advice.

    Josh Ward Garden Design

    http://www.joshwardgardendesign.com

  • Flints have a tendency to spit razor sharp flakes at high speed from fires.

    Avoid them!

  • I know sandstone tends to explode in contact so you definitely need fire bricks as a liner - take your lead from chimney construction, tried and tested methods!

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