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i've always used horse and chicken manure to fertilise my allotment and various gardens. and since i read john seymores complete guide to self sufficiency many years ago i have been hooked on the idea that maybe methane digestors are a way to help us on the much needed road to becoming less dependant on the earths fossil fuels. 

 

i read this new article on the bbc's website and wondered if its something that can be rolled out on all sewage treatment plants? i personally wouldn't buy or use fertiliser from human waste as i'm too squeamish but would it be a move in the right direction? we have the issue that all animals including us humans poo and maybe that would be a use for it all. 

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  • i'm talking about me handling it. i have no problems getting my hands dirty in chicken poo, horse, pig or cow poo but not human. i couldnt even change a nappy too icky to me.

    ROWLY HILL said:

    Too late to get squeamish about the use of human sewage sludge as a fertiliser.

     

    It's been used in agricultural production of crops for many years.

  • i would have thought it would have been the same as dog and cat poop. they contain toxins and metals that can be quite dangerous. i'm still not convinced about those dog waste digesters that you bury and the waste disappears into the soil around it with an activator?
  • what are your thoughts on the methane digester plant idea would that be a good idea?

     

  • in the 1970's a man called john seymore wrote a book called the complete guide to self sufficiency he included plans to make a domestic sized one it was aimed at smallholders and i suppose if you were willing to put the time into processing it then it could work however now many people have combi boilers and gas fires etc the consumption would be more than a back garden setup could cope with. i think he intended it to be used as a source of gas for the cooker. with the government being seen to be applying pressure on the energy suppliers to cut their carbon emissions then they will invest in such schemes.

    Pro Gard said:
    Its probably too expensive to be viable, I guess as enviromental pressure grows they might phase them in.

    Matt Brown said:

    what are your thoughts on the methane digester plant idea would that be a good idea?

     

  • Matt I once worked for the council driving a pan wagon, we emptied the lavatory buckets in the villages once a week. Our protective clothing was a pair of rubber gloves There were very few houses with flush toilets in the 60s in the villages. When it was lunch time we parked down a lane away from houses to eat our sandwiches, there was no facilities for washing your hands. I've also changed a few nappies in my time.

    Matt Brown said:
    i'm talking about me handling it. i have no problems getting my hands dirty in chicken poo, horse, pig or cow poo but not human. i couldnt even change a nappy too icky to me.

    ROWLY HILL said:

    Too late to get squeamish about the use of human sewage sludge as a fertiliser.

     

    It's been used in agricultural production of crops for many years.



  • ROWLY HILL said:

    Too late to get squeamish about the use of human sewage sludge as a fertiliser.

     

    It's been used in agricultural production of crops for many years.

     

    They transported it in barges from the cities to the country then emptied it on the fields in the 1800s.

  • PRO

    Hi Matt

    You might find this interesting

    http://www.wolvertonenvironmental.com/ww.htm

    Jen



  • Jennifer Mitchell said:

    Hi Matt

    You might find this interesting

    http://www.wolvertonenvironmental.com/ww.htm

    Jen

  • They use human waste on a farm next to my main garden.  It is shipped over from Ireland, stinks like nothing else I can think of, sits in a corner of a fieldfor a couple of months and is then spread, stinks all over again.  They spread it and the tractor and plough follows on behind as they have to get it into the soil within 24/48hrs. The fields are used for growing fodder beet for animals.

    We have MY SON-IN-LAW!!!!!!!! to thank for this he works for the main importers.  Maybe Guinness has something to do with smell? 

  • what you want is a compost loo!!! And check put this fabulous book on a well known book shop site

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Humanure-Handbook-Guide-Composting-Manure/d...

    It very important to not mix the number 1's and 2's, which is the secret in a compost loo, then you don't get the unpleasant smell and the poo turns into beautiful friable black stuff. The urine can also be used separtly. check out 'Liquid Gold' by Carol Steinfeld!
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