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Cladding Sleeper Wall

Hello landscapers

I have a client who has a low sleeper wall that forms a raised bed with the house on one side, sleepers on the other. The sleepers are on their sides with 2 courses of about 200mm per sleeper totalling a 400mm wall, about 100mm of which is beneath the surface. The sleeper wall slopes into the ground due to a change is gradient and the sleepers follwing a flat level. The client wants the sleeprs gone and a stone wall put in its place they also keep a close eye on cost becuase they are not the ones who will be paying for it. My question is can i just clad the timber with some natural stone or is that something that is just not possible?

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  • By the time you’ve messed about trying to clad it you may as well have built a new wall. It’s only small, wouldn’t cost a lot ( depending on what their version of ‘a lot’ is!).

    • How much do you think it will cost? £300 plus labour? I was thinking just block work cladded in the cotwold stone, same pttern as the house.

      • I don’t know the price of Cotswold stone if I’m honest, don’t use it around these parts. Going from the photo, I would be able to knock that up in a day, so whatever you’re day rate is + materials. Personally I’d have said it was a £500 job all-in, but this is without knowing the price of that stone!

  • I wouldn't try to clad it.  Those are tanalised softwood sleepers, they'll have a short enough life even with the air getting to them!  Plus I can't think how you'd get cladding to stick.  If they want a stone wall they'll have to pay for it, otherwise it's their problem not yours.

  • PRO

    There's a lot going on in that photo,  personally if it was my house I'd do away with that raised bed and keep the house damp course clear. 

    • PRO

      I'd agree, unless you put a barrier against the wall. For me the scale of bed to house is also wrong. It's neither here nor there. Fine for a climber but not much else..

  • PRO

    Just FYI - Marshall’s produce 3N or
    blocks pre-clad with various stone.

    Drastically reduces building time. Watched them being used on a development we are working on.

    All they need is minor pointing on the offset joints. 

    • hi Gary, ive been searching for these blocks online but no joy so far, do you have any more details?

      • PRO

        I don’t, but assume they would be available direct - maybe they do limited runs for house builders to their spec ?

  • PRO

    There is already a damp barrier across the back of the bed against the house wall, the DPC doesn’t show up in the photo, I suspect it is already bridged.

    There is a semi-concealed gas meter box buried in the corner behind the sleepers that has to remain accessible with a gas pipe and earth wire going to it from within the house, there also appears to be a rainwater down pipe going to drain by the gas meter box that if it backs up will flood the flower bed.

    There is a lot going on in that photo that to me indicates there is a possibility of damp issues in the house due to the flowerbed.


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