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Border work price or hourly rate?

Just pricing up some border work on a small estate the client wants a price for the year rather than monthly or fortnightly he is suggesting visit in spring summer and autumn the borders need some work to get up together but not to bad bit nervous on giving a price rather than a day rate because its difficult to price until we have done it once there is not to much herbaceous more shrubs 6 borders about 50m2 any clues how I should be pitching it.he is also getting 3 quotes is there a clever way of quoting without showing your hand so to speak thanks for any. Help

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    In these kind of situations Chris I often used to ask the client to bear some risk with me and allow me to do a day to test the conditions.

    Be honest with yourself and the client and don not worry about the two other quotes. What's important to you is that the partnership is mutually beneficial. Showing your hand should not mean any kind of disadvantage.

    If your potential client is just after the cheapest quote then this isn't right for you. Move on and and find the right client.

    If you feel confident making a guestimate then do so but make sure you include a margin that's beneficial to you and your business. Do not, under any circumstances, buy the work.

  • Thanks Phil good advice can you tell me as I haven't been on for a while is the forums still active because I have heard some other sites where they use same facility the forums are not so active hope its all going well
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    I think you can see for yourself Chris;-0)

    chris said:

    Thanks Phil good advice can you tell me as I haven't been on for a while is the forums still active because I have heard some other sites where they use same facility the forums are not so active hope its all going well
  • Chris have you an idea how often you'd need to tend the borders? You can sit and work out your own rough annual price, and agree terms to pay this over 12 installments or whatever suits you. 

    Will each visit consist of full maintenance of all areas (weeding/spray, cultivating, trimming, edging)? Consider the first visit may need more time, and also will the job be able to be scheduled into your diary without creating havoc?

  • Hi dan the client wants spring summer and autumn just keeping them tidy.mulching etc I thought phils suggestion was a good idea it's a tricky one still not sure best way foreard
  • The problem with quoting against others in a case like this is you are not quoting like for like, ie your standards will not be the same as others.  I would give a one-off tidy-up price and an annual maintenance price of say 18 visits.  You will have an idea of how long you would like to spend on site, remembering summer shrub and maybe hedge trimming. Try and get a face to face meeting, putting your case and emphasise you will be looking to provide a year on year improvement to the site.  Provide recommendations or examples of your work.  Project you and your services right and price may not be a such a factor.

  • What do you class as a visit ie as long as it takes or so many hrs
  • A visit would be what you estimate your time on site will be plus travelling. I wouldn't specify the time on site as some may be longer than others. 

    chris said:

    What do you class as a visit ie as long as it takes or so many hrs
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