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  Lawncare-4u.co.uk November 8, 2010 at 10:46pm

  feels like it - the fumes/dust/ivy i seem to inhale by the end of a day. unless its just london visits :/
  

  

  not me / worker
  
  colin said:

  "it prevents chest pain and coughing!" do you drink it??
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  Andy Thorne November 8, 2010 at 11:08pm

  I use Apsen 2T exclusively in all 2 stroke machines now.(for the last 6months)
  
  Remember, the issue is not just the purity of the oil, the main issue is the crap that's in standard unleaded petrol, which contains around 100 substances, compared to just 10 in Apsen.
  
  Benzene content 0.01% compared to 1%. Benzene is a causal factor of leukaemia, I don't fancy any of that!
  Plus all the other stuff: olefins, etc
  
  Over a year I reckon cost of Aspen to me will be maximum c£1300, compared to c£400 for regular 2 stroke mix. That's c£900 extra. Divide that across the year and your only talking about 42pence/hour extra. A price I'm well willing to pay. :)
  
  If you're concerned about the cost I'd suggest that you use Aspen in the higher risk tools such as hedgecutters, saws etc as the exhaust is in close proximity to you most of the time.
  
  I was skeptical when I first heard and read about it but asked a few guys I know who are chemist, doctor, and biologist. They agreed with AA oils analysis of facts.
  
  Another advantage is that the fuel doesn't go stale; great for in machines that aren't used that frequently (like for me earth auger etc)
  
  I haven't mentioned this before as I'm now a dealer and thought it may be disengenuous for me to start a thread.
  
  If anyone is near Chester/Wirral and wants to try some I will supply single 5l packs, cost is £16 each.
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  Lawncare-4u.co.uk November 8, 2010 at 11:31pm

  what is the blue one? thats what i clicked on it for origionaly ? i paid £11 last year for red 5ltr from corwen forestry boyo !
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  Andy Thorne November 8, 2010 at 11:57pm

  Blue is 4T Straight replacement for unleaded., apparently used a lot in camping stoves as cheaper than Coleman (?) fuel. You can of course add Stihl HP or whatever to it for 2 stroke use....
  
  Last year was a year or more ago! ;) I only know how much it is now. (About 3 times the price of unleaded.)
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  Andy Thorne November 9, 2010 at 7:52am

  Don't know tbh mate.
  I had 540l when I got last delivery! That is in a locked steel bunded container though...
  I know the the licensing authority to filling stations limits sale to 10l in plastic cans and 20l in metal cans; this is to do with sale though.
  
  Who do you think has jurisdiction over the amount of fuel you store at home? - I don't know.
  
  I did check about 1.5yrs ago on the amount I could carry in the van. The guy from DoT said there wasn't a limit but that c20-25l would be sensible. Carrying anything over 5l requires a fire extinguisher in cab and all containers secured upright, to be marked with UN1203 flammable symbol. (exterior flammable symbols that you often see on vans do not comply - they should be on containers) He explained that the fire extinguisher is not for the petrol but to put out a small cab or engine fire, if safe to do so, to prevent the load igniting.
  
  Check the above yourself as I am not certain of the up to date position.
  As far as I am concerned I follow what DoT told me for transport and am prudent otherwise. I don't store any near the house.
  
  Sorry no definitive help.
  Anyone else know?
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  David Beasley Garden Design November 9, 2010 at 8:38am

  

  
  
  Gardens4u.co.uk said:

  feels like it - the fumes/dust/ivy i seem to inhale by the end of a day. unless its just london visits :/
  

  

  not me / worker
  
  colin said:

  "it prevents chest pain and coughing!" do you drink it??
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  Will - WB Design & Construction November 9, 2010 at 1:20pm

  http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum/faqs.htm
  
  I think this link answers the questions regarding fuel within a vehicle.
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  Will - WB Design & Construction November 9, 2010 at 5:17pm

  I read it as you could transport 333L before you needed licenses unless I have missread it.
  
  
  
  colin said:

  i like the bit at the bottom that says theyve stopped doing the regulations because the hse staff are better use in other areas.
  
  it is very random though and doesnt actually identify how much petrol can be carried yet it does diesel which is a lower class of explosive risk. the storage at home and workplace is fairly clear though so long as its not in a habited building its a free for all
  
  Will - WB Design & Construction said:

  http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum/faqs.htm
  
  I think this link answers the questions regarding fuel within a vehicle.
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  Andy Thorne November 9, 2010 at 7:00pm

  Paul
  
  However good the oil is you've still got 100times the amount of Benzene that comes from your unleaded. Plus all the other crap!
  (I used to use Stihl HP - anyone fancy buying a can with 4l left?)
  
  Bottles wise - They are recyclable. If they are burnt they only emit CO2 and water. No nasty toxic compounds :)
  
  If I got ill I would lose the £900 saving every week (in turnover exc. materials!)
  
  So, for me I reckon that the reduction in chance of me getting a respiratory disease or cancer due to using 2 stroke machines relentlessly is well worth £900pa. Let's face it - I just pass the cost on anyhow ;)
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  Lawncare-4u.co.uk January 21, 2012 at 1:27am

  any updates on this as a user ,

  im going to get some .........  pricele$$  ..........   health NOT wealth...

  robin