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Is it time to say goodbye to Chelsea?

561 Held at one of the busiest times of year, the Chelsea International Flower Show attracts thousands of visitors to see the array of show gardens and products associated with horticulture. However, Chelsea has real problem - the show ground is too small and cramped and access is difficult. There is no room to expand the show ground as it is crammed adjacent to the Thames at the Chelsea Embankment, Chelsea Bridge Road and Royal Hospital Road. Getting to it is difficult for most visitors and recreation facilities are limited. Just parking a car will cost £25.00 for the day. Hampton Court Palace Flower Show, fast becoming the flower show of choice, has got so much more to offer. Although still adjacent to the Thames, there is room to expand and with Bushey Park just across the Hampton Court Road, almost unlimited recreation and additional parking. Is it time scale down Chelsea or scrap it altogether or should this flagship gardening event continue to be hosted at the famous Royal Hospital?

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  • I hope that the Chelsea Flower Show lasts a little longer as I'm exhibiting there this year.
    If anyone is going I'm on stand EA 34 where I will be demonstrating my latest multi plant list garden plant advice encyclopeadia CD-ROM.
    Please come along and say 'Hi'.
    I exhibited at Chelsea for the first time last year and we had a very good show. For the past 5 years I've exhibited at Hampton Court and last year we had rain wich was not so good. Cars had to be towed out by tractor and they very nearly closed the Show. Once you're in it's a good show for visitors but not very good for exhibitors. It's very expensive and the RHS are cramming more and more exhibitors in and some are pretty naff. Last year we were next to a company selling twee fibre glass painted boots with tweeting birds. made in China, another selling silk umbrellas also made in China. I gather from other exhibitors that their sales were 60% down on the previous year.
    The show gardens are well worth seeing. Fabulous works of art and passion with so much effort put in. You can also get some great plants. You will also find beutiful sculputes and water features.Well worth a visit.
  • I'm definitely a fan of Chelsea and hope that they keep it. I like the show gardens, the focus on excellence. and the top of the range products that can be seen there. I find it so stimulating and vibrant. Gardening and plants are king. I come away with passion and inventiveness. The crazy mix of London life bumping into the horticultural/floral world is much part of the magic and beauty. Bandstands and the Chelsea Pensioners.... it is a full on experience. And why expand it - Chelsea is what it is. There are other flower shows to visit, each of which have their own character.


    Hampton Court feels a duller, more average and trying to offer something for the whole family. Plants have to compete for attention with fashion catwalks and non-gardening shopping malls. I don't think comparing Hampton Court and Chelsea is appropriate. They are separate species.

    And regarding transport, I don't own a car so getting to Chelsea is so much simpler than getting to Hampton Court.
    • I can honestly say that the Chelsea Flower Show has had its day, it is all about personalities and very little else, passion for Horticulture reaches out to all and unfortunately the CFS is now seen as something for the 'haves' of this world and not the 'run of the mill' gardener!.....sorry but Hampton Court is for all and not just the few!! ...just an opinion!!!
  • There has been a bit of a hoo-haa about Chelsea with some of the local residents complaining about the disruption for three weeks in the build and then another week when the show is actually on. There were even rumours that it may come into difficulties with planning next year. But (and this is quite a big but) can you imagine Boris Johnson allowing locals to force the closure of the Flower Show now that he's Mayor? I can't imagine that he would allow it to disappear 'on his watch' as it were. Furthermore, it's probably one of the major sources of revenue for the RHS and its loss would certainly have an impact on the charity.
  • Having visited Chelsea last week to do some photography I was dismayed at the show. Firstly the focus is purely on the Television with visitors vying with groups of tv crews to get shots of the gardens, it seemed no matter which way you turned you were faced with a mic boom and 6 bbc staff setting up. I know for many of the exhibitors it is critical to get good coverage as this is the sometimes the only way to guarantee some return on their investment but for the true gardener, of which I think there were few and far between them it makes the show very secondary. The amount of Hooray Henry's there was quite staggering, and it was quite public knowledge that Chelsea 2008 was the place to meet up and have a glass or two of Pimms. it will be interesting to talk to some of the real exhibitors to see what they got out of it. My aim next week is to do just that and get a better barometer of the mood of Chelsea, but as for myself well Malvern and Tatton beckon Chelsea 2009 is definitely not in my calender
  • PRO
    I am looking to attend Hampton Court Stuart - I will let you know and maybe we can meet up.

    That goes for any other LJN member who may be attending. I may see you there.
  • In My opinion, definitely not time to say goodbye....

     

    i've been going to both Chelsea and Hampton Court for the last 15 years.

    i've been lucky enough to go for work when with the RHS, and with family and friends.

    Chelsea is a Show, a spectacle.

    Yes it's a smaller show ground, but actually quite big enough to house everything, and it's charm is its location.

    Over the years, i've been with avid gardeners, who delve into the plants and admire (or critisise) the gardens. I've been with my husband, who enjoys it for a day off from work, a chance to have a nice lunch out, and see some garden "stuff " at the same time, and i've been with staff, who have all gone off to find the bits that they are interested in whether that be the plants, tools and machinery, gardens or the people watching!

     

    Hampton Court is great, and a show I hardly ever miss, but in an entirely different way. You can buy stuff, rather than just order, the season is another 6 weeks further on, so the plants are completely different. There is more space, so that means slightly more room to see the exhibits, - but also means more walking. I've taken my son to Hampton Court show several times, (in fact a buggy is really good for putting purchases in- shame he's past that stage now.) and as it's open both Saturday and Sunday as well as in the week, it can be a family show.

     

    I think there is, and will continue to be room for both of these and shows, and with Chelsea FS tickets selling out weeks in advance this year, there is obviously the demand.

     

    p.s - I go to both shows by public transport, the train to Hampton Court is great and there are ferry boats from the station if the 20 minute riverside walk is too much at the end of the day.

     

     

  • PRO

    I'm sure you've all noticed but I just wanted to point out that this discussions originates from April 2008.

     

    No less relevant now as it was then though.

  • Well, since it's new ownership, Chelsea have bought the premiership title, and somewhat unbalanced the transfer market generally.

     

    Normally a mid-table club, or relegation prospect, Cheslea have bought trophies through unlimited funding, affecting our normal domestic game. 

     

    Still however, failures in European football though despite the millions spent.

     

    Is it time to say say goodbye to Chelsea F.C. ,yes.

     

    Ah almost forgot, this is the Landscaping website, oops!!

     

    Chelsea Flower Show, outdated, yes.  Trade relevent, sometimes.  To go, no.  The RHS allow bits and pieces to be sold through the week, but not plants, apart from the sell off's from Gardens in the last hour of the Show. 

     

    This is an International RHS Flower Show?

     

    Hampton Court has gained the reputation within the Trade over the past few years, as the Giant Car Boot sale.  The number of Show Gardens at this Show have dropped in recent years, and space has been taken by "stands" some selling non-horticultural related products.  Unlike Chelsea though, at this RHS Flower Show, plants are for sale all week?  (P.S. We did HCFS between 1997 and 2005 working on and supplying many Tudor Rose and Gold Medal winning gardens)

     

    An eye opener for us this year was Cardiff RHS Show.  Almost a back to basics Show for the RHS, with plants a major factor at the Show. 

     

    RHS, are you listening?

     

     

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