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Tool banks,are they feasible

Tool theft seems to be on the increase and members are suffering,insurance problems,no kit to work with etc.Last year a member had his tools nicked but what impressed me was that a senior member offered him a not inconsiderable amount of kit to tide him over(wont name him don't want to embarrass him and cause a carry on!).This was an excellent gesture but could only be done because they were fairly local to each other.
I know that most of us will have back up machines for emergencies but I'm sure that a lot of us will have kit that we have updated but are not using for example if I had a spare mower/strimmer(older models but plenty of life in them)I would be happy to loan/give them to a victim of the scum.
I'm sure other members would agree so if we could collate who could spare what and were they are located perhaps an emergency tool bank could be organised.I know it would have to be checked as could be abused and a bit reluctant to add to much detail on this open forum but as the title says is it feasible?

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  • Not a bad idea at all. I had an accident with my strimmer last month and borrowed a friend's, it saved me having to buy or hire a replacement whilst Stihl failed to deliver a small part over a bank holiday, that turned in to a fortnight!

    I guess the problem is that you never lend tools to anyone, outside of real friends, as it only leads to the inevitable fall-out when something breaks. How do you allow for the mower that blows an engine when it's borrowed, and the owner claims it's run like new for 20 years?

  • I can see the idea working but would be difficult in practise unless both sides already trusted eacg other.

    Just yesterday my PBTS died a death - starter coil broke and as I pulled it apart the metal cowl turned out have gone brittle and fractured causing the starter pawls to be out of allignment.... Cost of parts will be nigh on £80, yet I had no idea it would happen to a 2 y old mower........... Lent out I would probabbly feel that it had been abused.

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    This a great idea in principle but I fear it would cause a lot of falling out between pool members. The only way I would see it working would be if:
    1): They pool machines were not of high value to the donor member and they were not fussed if it broke down whilst another member was using it

    2): Members agreed to repair said broken machine at their own cost, which again I could see causing issues between pool members.

    3): Or members could agree to pay-in a mutually agreed fee to a holding account that would be used for repairs..... but then you are getting into having a committee of members deciding what repairs get done, again I could see issues in that too.

    4): Another issue would be, and I mean this with the greatest of respect, would members trust each other enough to lend out spare machines ?. This goes back to all of the above and as only a few members actually have met and know each other from rare LJN meet ups it would be a "thorny hedge to prune".

  • Perhaps an exchange system whereby user can sell old machines between each other - Means the person in need gets a mchine cheaply and quickly, while the seller gets some money for a machine they are not using?

  • This is probably a stupid question but what's a PBTS?

    David Cox said:

    I can see the idea working but would be difficult in practise unless both sides already trusted eacg other.

    Just yesterday my PBTS died a death - starter coil broke and as I pulled it apart the metal cowl turned out have gone brittle and fractured causing the starter pawls to be out of allignment.... Cost of parts will be nigh on £80, yet I had no idea it would happen to a 2 y old mower........... Lent out I would probabbly feel that it had been abused.

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    An Etesia pro mower, 46 I think.

    Geoff Norfolk said:

    This is probably a stupid question but what's a PBTS?

    David Cox said:

    I can see the idea working but would be difficult in practise unless both sides already trusted eacg other.

    Just yesterday my PBTS died a death - starter coil broke and as I pulled it apart the metal cowl turned out have gone brittle and fractured causing the starter pawls to be out of allignment.... Cost of parts will be nigh on £80, yet I had no idea it would happen to a 2 y old mower........... Lent out I would probabbly feel that it had been abused.

  • Nice idea in a perfect world... but really wouldn't work in practice, the only way I can see it working is in a full scale way with subscriptions paid and tools insured and serviced etc and hire shops already do all that ?

    I for one cringe at the way some tools are used ! it's the thing of nightmares..!

    It would have to be all or nothing...it works in the car world, folk get replacement cars whilst the insurance is sorted ? but would that work for garden machinery ??????

    Unfortunately I can't see it ;-(

    Mark

  • PBTS - Pro46 PBTS - Briggs engine, self proppelled model

  • I think this is an excellent idea and one that I would have used myself after I had my entire stock stolen.
  • Why not start a co-operative of gardeners, subs paid, and tool banks in areas in the country, subs could include liability insurance for gardeners, anyhow I like the idea of tool banks as tool theft is on the increase or perhaps our knowledge of it happening!? Feasibility is easy as long as you have the volunteers!!! But getting volunteers is easier said than done. Cooperatives are a way to go
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