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Capital expenses. What if you don't want to use AIA?

I have a higher turnover in the current year than i did in the tax year 11-12. I also bought a new van in that tax year so have a much higher total of capital expenses than i will this year.

As such it probably makes sense not to claim their full value under AIA as i have done the last few years but carry some of the value over into this year.

As i only went self employed again in 08 i have always claimed the full value of capital expsenses under the AIA and have never written them down.

Do i simply create a pool for them and use the writing down allowance of 20%?

Also if this is the right route can i claim some of them under the AIA and just choose how much to write down?

Thanks for your help.

And don;t worry its all done apart from this. Nothing like a deadline to push you on....

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  • Even worse is having taxman coming at 10am tomorrow.
    And I don't know what AIA is otherwise I could ask him.

    I've just googled it and found out. I have always put down machinery as expense, as most only last a couple of years or have no reselling value. Will give him something to pick me up on.
    Simon, I can ask him if you like?

    Not sure you have any choice with the van mind

  • PRO
    AIA is the Annual Investment Allowance. But I'm reluctant to say much more than that as I leave the accountancy side of things to my accountant. It's what he does best and leaves me to focus on the running of my businesses.
  • All i have gathered is that if a vehicle for £9,000 is purchased it should be a 'cost' , that is spread say over 3years accounts .... ie £3,000 per years under vehicle costs.

    any capital value of this at the end of year 3 or depreciation is added or if traded in it is lost against another say £12,000 vehicle ... its a fixed cost.

    variable costs; ie fuel, tax, insurance, mot, servicing & repairs should all come under the year they are paid out for.

    ive never had a vehicle over £5,800 and i have it on a loan so have put the £248/month (inc 8.7% interest) costs on each year ie £3,000 a year under vehicle costs...
    £4,000 fuel , other associated costs, admin, marketing, machines, internet / phones/ mobiles .oils/ fuels / insurances / storage etc there is not much left as profit !

    The tax- code is about £9200 now too for myself.

  • Not quite sure what the 20% writing down allowance means - anyone?

  • PRO
    Its the % you can claim each year of the value of the purchase, but I "think" purchases need to be depreciated over a max of 5 years so it should be 20% claimed in each year till the cost of the purchase is zero'd so to speak. For example, a £1000 purchase, you can claim £200 a year tax relief against it for 5 years. Personally i get my accountant to offset the full value of the purchase in each tax year.
  • So is 20% the minimum you can claim of that asset value in a year? Ie you can claim 50% over each of 2 years for example?
  • PRO
    Theres a sliding scale that accountants use, think a lot depends on how your books look in so far as profit and loss and what your accountant advises i keep it simple and claim the full amount in each year less hassle than spreading it over 4-5 years unless its in the region of 10k for a van or big bit o kit
  • My theory:
    year1:cap exp: £10k, writing down allowance(wda) 20% , £2k claimed on tax return, £8k (pool) carried forward.

    year 2: no new cap exp, wda 20% on £8k, £1.6k claimed on tax return, £6.4k (pool)carried forward.

    year 3: new cap exp £4k + 6.4k b/f ; pool now £10.4, 20% wda, £2,080 claimed, £8,320 (Pool)carried forward

    and so on. it is the wda on the current value of pool you claim so it is not 20% over 5 years, but rather 20% of pool each year, which will therefore be less each year as pool total reduces.

    And to complicate matters further, wda reduced to 18% from 1 mar 2012. (next tax return...dont panic)

    It is actually quite straightforward i think, so long as you are happy handling numbers.

  • I'm depreciating my van at 25%. I was always told you could depreciate at various percentages providing they reflect the life span/value of the equipment. Typically 50-100% for short lifespan machinery (hedge cutters etc) 20-25% vechicles, 2- 10% long term investments (land, yard buildings). There are limits and guidelines on the HMRC website.

    I've just completed my tax return and put depreciated items in the AIA.

  • And this link might help if you can cut through the verbal garbage:
    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/capital-allowances/plant.htm#5

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