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New Landscaping and Design Companies

Just had a quick look at our local rag and the numbers of new companies is unbelievable. There must be at least 40 new companies launched this year.There is certainly no extra work to sustain these new companies and many of the smaller established companies are either diversifying or just plodding along.Is this a general trend or just peculiar to Cheshire?

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    Richard

    Is there not a similar thing happening to the garden industry that blighted the plumbing industry a few years back?

    Too many people seeking to few positions?
    • Not sure Phil. As you know we stepped back from landscaping over the 18 months and concentrated on the hire side.

      The colleges are poring out designers and landscapers there was a rash of garden designer/landscaping programmes glorifying the industry over the last 4 years, which have gone very quite lately.

      It was the shear volume of ads which amazed me, normally there would be 1 page full, this week there were 3 pages admittedly I don't usually pick up this paper but the quantity looking for work was quite a shock.

      Also the UK economy has just started to go very quite transportation, hardscaping products...have all increased massively. We are seeing developers walking away from multi million pound projects because the old contracts mean there is no profit now that the increases have come through. Worrying times for any business that is using credit to survive.

      I was going to expand into much needed larger premises and buy a new van for the delivery side but now I think that we'll just make do.
  • 40 new companies, in Cheshire ? Blimey!

    I think there's probably a lot of career changers who see gardening/landscaping as an escape from their particular rat race, and I'm guessing that a lot of these new start-ups won't exist in 12 months when they realise just how much work is involved!

    The same is happening in plumbing/carpentry - lots of career changers doing short courses to learn the trade, and then launching themselves on an unsuspecting public. 10 years ago around here you struggled to find a plumber, now you can see 20 advertising in the local paper.

    The good news is that the best form of advertising is word of mouth, and it'll take these guys years to build any sort of reputation (if they don't get fed up and decide to do something else before that happens) and the established companies should be able to continue to trade successfully.
  • While our service is aimed at the high end of the market I see that there is a huge range of clients that we would not necessarily do work for who are looking for work of a quality and budget that suits them. There is a place for a range of different quality levels of landscape companies to fulfill that work and we turn quite a bit of work down. Our service is for those clients who are very very fussy about the quality of work and particuarly those who recognise the value of good design. We are finding that the current economic situation is not effecting us greatly, maybe because our clients are generally pretty wealthy.

    I must say it annoys me the amount of non legal companies doing work for cash and giving people an unrealistic expectation of what it costs to do the work properly. Its hard being a vat registered tax paying enterprise!
    • There are still planty of people willing to pay more for an honest, proffessional, fair and competent job. If people want to pay less or are not so fussy they can pay someone else less.

      As a legal, tax paying, insurance paying...etc company we cannot afford to charge any less. The level of charge is reflected in the service we give, the efficiency, friendliness and honesty.

      One last encouraging point: over 50% of startup businesses cease to exist after 2 years.... Other than bad business sense I believe the reason for this must be apparent in the service they give, or bad service they give. If they're good they'll last, if not they deserve not to and inevitably will struggle - thereafter leaving us proper businesses to get on with our good jobs!
  • I found that there seems to be a wealth of garden designers on one hand and landscapers on the other but very few good quality gardeners who can maintain gardens in the middle. That seems to be changing now and a few of the designers are beginning to branch into maintenance. It seems to make sense as many of the designers' clients won't know how to look after their new garden. Doesn't anyone point out to their clients that gardens continue growing, needing maintenance, and it's not like having a new kitchen or bathroom? ;-)
    • The problem is finding people with good hort knowledge and then getting clients to pay them a reasonable rate. Most people opt for the odd sod man who comes along no matter what the time of year/weather and scalps the grass...people are completely clueless where plants are involved.
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    Agh! Richard - I am sorry for not including this link when preparing my post on Landscape Juice about there being too many landscaping companies.
  • No it's not just Cheshire, Richard it's down here in the South East too.
    This subject often comes up in conversation and personally I'm not worried. It's an easy industry to get into, unregulated, cheap start up costs, so it attracts a multitude of chancers and unethical people along with the bona fide companies looking for work.
    A business can only last so long before it goes t*ts up if it can't deliver the goods and earns a bad reputation. So good horticultural/landscapers/designers will hopefully be in a stronger position once the economy's picked up and all the 'dead wood' companies have given up and tried something else.
    I would agree that there's only so much available work out there so being multi talented is more important than ever, which means re-training, but isn't that the same in most lines of work now? Damned world doesn't stay still for 5 mins these days....
  • maybe 10 people doing fencing/ gardening etc this year extra in my little town. - 3 of them i know are ;

    tom,dick and harry , i heard their cousin is starting very soon too; 'bodger' !!
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