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  John Baker February 11, 2013 at 4:20pm

  As a free account holder at present may I say that in my humble opinion these seem very reasonable.
  ....But I can't wait to see if that opinion is generally shared, knowing how much some members like to take umbrage!
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  Brian www.mibservices.co.uk February 12, 2013 at 10:20am

  +1
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  English Sheep February 12, 2013 at 11:35am

  Phil.
  
  I have my business tax number, now I have to go back to the tax office to get a piece of paper to then send off to another tax office then wait out on my international tax number.
  
  Phew!
  
  What this means is that Ze Germans are mental for paper work. They must have it in their blood!
  
  When I get my other tax number it will mean I can finally register as a pro member. My web site may be out of beta by then!
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  Bird Garden Design February 12, 2013 at 11:39am

  Seems a shame to lose contact details from the profile. I think I've had a reciprocal link on my website to LJN for about 5 years, which may or may not have helped LJN in the early days (it certainly wouldn't have harmed :)). It's a pity that the original concept has been lost somehow. I'm not sure that I'll upgrade to 'pro' as I don't recall any past clients finding us via this website. Good luck though. It's always been a reasonable resource for an insight into the landscape industry nationwide.
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  Phil Voice February 12, 2013 at 11:40am

  "It's always been a reasonable resource for an insight into the landscape industry nationwide."

  But you still retain this as a free member, nothing has changed there....got to be worth the 11p a day for that alone;-0))

  
  Bird Garden Design said:

  Seems a shame to lose contact details from the profile. I think I've had a reciprocal link on my website to LJN for about 5 years, which may or may not have helped LJN in the early days (it certainly wouldn't have harmed :)). It's a pity that the original concept has been lost somehow. I'm not sure that I'll upgrade to 'pro' as I don't recall any past clients finding us via this website. Good luck though. It's always been a reasonable resource for an insight into the landscape industry nationwide.
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  Bird Garden Design February 12, 2013 at 11:42am

  I agree but on top of all the other 'outs' and seemingly ever-diminishing 'ins', it's just another cost really
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  Phil Voice February 12, 2013 at 11:45am

  I'm sure it is but I'm not responsible for the other costs.

  I've just spoken to a web developer about a project I'm planning for LJN. Let alone the cost of carrying out the work (if it goes age just to create a storyboard/project map will cost me £200.
  
  Bird Garden Design said:

  I agree but on top of all the other 'outs' and seemingly ever-diminishing 'ins', it's just another cost really
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  Phil Voice February 12, 2013 at 11:55am

  Thanks for the update Gregory

  If it's any consolation, the paperwork's just as onerous here:(
  
  Gregory Roberts said:

  Phil.
  
  I have my business tax number, now I have to go back to the tax office to get a piece of paper to then send off to another tax office then wait out on my international tax number.
  
  Phew!
  
  What this means is that Ze Germans are mental for paper work. They must have it in their blood!
  
  When I get my other tax number it will mean I can finally register as a pro member. My web site may be out of beta by then!