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Reducing an overgrown Beech hedge

Hi, --- has anyone much experience with reducing overgrown Beech hedges, and what I could do with this one? - It had been kept at about 6' and the young couple now looking after it would like it back if possible.Most books say – cut top first year, one side the following year and t'other the next, preferably with a good feed and mulch the year before you start.I'm not so sure - I did a well kept but gotten too wide Beech three years ago – cut back one side maybe 15” - and its only now really filling in.And the trouble with this very overgrown one is that there's little growth on the back side as it faces a dark conifer woodSorry about poor pictures – The Beech is over 20 foot. Second pic is taken from behind.

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  • Kill or cure I reckon....obviously going to be problems with what they want...so long as they are aware..? Then go for it, although they may end up with a dead hedge !
  • rip it out and sell them a nice 6ft fence !!!

    or lop tops of and leave the sides. maybe advise them to water it regulary.
  • how much do you charge for that pub job with chicken col?

    do you do anymore work there or just the grass? how often ? message me if u like.

    let me know when u have another mower and ill buy the viking from u !!!

    colin said:
    what regular maintenance comes from a fence? keep the hedge lol

    Robin Ainsworth said:
    rip it out and sell them a nice 6ft fence !!!

    or lop tops of and leave the sides. maybe advise them to water it regulary.
  • Thanks for suggestions chaps but I wouldn't want to take any risks – just wondered if (and how) anybody had done a beech this overgrown before – and what happened.

    I think this is too overgrown to get back to how it was, the branches are reaching a good six foot out from the trunks and as I say in my experience cutting back a normally growing one 15” has taken a good three years to fill out again.

    Weaving in the branches is an idea I would never have thought of Pro Gard – how do you mean if this is feasible? - the branches are quite sparse so I could probably be quite firm with them and it wouldn't matter if some split a bit as I believe you can lay a beech hedge (?)
  • but what was that curry recipe again ?????????? i forgot - did u post somewhere?

    pete said:
    Thanks for suggestions chaps but I wouldn't want to take any risks – just wondered if (and how) anybody had done a beech this overgrown before – and what happened.

    I think this is too overgrown to get back to how it was, the branches are reaching a good six foot out from the trunks and as I say in my experience cutting back a normally growing one 15” has taken a good three years to fill out again.

    Weaving in the branches is an idea I would never have thought of Pro Gard – how do you mean if this is feasible? - the branches are quite sparse so I could probably be quite firm with them and it wouldn't matter if some split a bit as I believe you can lay a beech hedge (?)
  • Ok, thanks, I'd love to have a go at that - I've tried to find out more about it but the nearest I can get is hedge laying or plessage (in France) – This weaving would be a sort of variation of laying I guess, but I don't know that I'd trust myself to do it first time in a client's garden.

    I've asked the same question on a lumberjack site and it was pointed out that if I were to take the top right down they would be faced with all the dead lower branches of the conifers behind (as Colin said). It was suggested to accept that the hedge has got away – take it down to 12 or 15 foot – take no more than 2-3 foot off the face and that way it could be done all in one shot as it'll never be a small hedge again.

    But I think this couple would prefer a tight hedge, so if your idea would work Pro Gard.... I'd have to take the top right back down, and if I were allowed to clean up the conifers behind, it could end up looking quite smart.

    I do know a chap that's won prizes for hedge laying – I'll see what he thinks , maybe get him to do it (and let me help)

    Robin - here's that curry recipe again. (its very good)
  • Are you considering laying it? It would be interesting to know if your hedgelaying expert says thats a good way to renovate it. It seems to be a skill making a comeback?
  • No, not laying, the idea is to see if the side branches would bend back to and along the line of the hedge if possible and weave them together - sounds a bit tricky - I'd leave it until sap's rising as Pro Gard says - but I might still split some - splitting is ok when laying, as branches are only bent to 45deg. or so, so sap can still rise. The idea here I think is to bend them back horizontally.

    Actually the more I think about it the more I want to have a go at it.
  • I just read on an RHS page that Beech can be coppiced. Is there anybody that thinks I could maybe do that with my customers' hedge here successfully – and so to start a new hedge?
    It would give another option if so.
  • I took these pictures two days ago... I'd just got myself all geared up to do it Pro Gard's way at the end of February, weaving the branches in - (I did a lot of research as I really wasn't sure about this an Pro's idea really was the only positive one - cheers mate!) I'd found out how to make the stretchy inner tube ties - but I must have dithered too much cuz he got someone else in... what do you think? (click on the pics)




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