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The video below is from the US but I've found it interesting to listen the the chap talking about how he prices up a job.

Pricing up jobs - whether that's by the job, by the day or by the hour - has always been a highly contentious subject.

Much of what he's talking about, we've endlessly discussed on LJN (maybe he's been reading the site;-0)

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  • Haha he makes it sound so easy ;)

  • PRO

    It is interesting to think about pricing discreet items on a large job individually to come up with a final figure, particularly when considering larger jobs with multiple parts. I don't generally price by breaking things down (say for example an overgrown garden clearance/one-off tidy up) and think 'if this particular item was a stand-alone job it would be x amount, this part would be y amount etc.' and then add all of those together to come up with a final price. That method would probably always come up with a much higher price than simply a basic time estimation and your own internal pricing rate plus waste etc. 

    But his view about gut feeling is also interesting. A lot of the time just getting a feel for the customer, a general feel for the work site, the access, the age of the garden... all of these things might lead to sticking on an extra x amount to cover whatever worries you perceive. Lots of times I've been glad that at the last minute I decided to increase the price by 20% or whatever when you get into the nitty gritty of the job and realise your hunch was correct! 

  • PRO

    I find the guy great! I've been following the "The Landscaping Employee Trap" for some time now. Some great videos. Anyone else give him a watch? Obviously it's a bit different as it's from accross the pond. Find his stuff very motivating.

    In terms of pricing (I'm finding my feet as we speak) I seem to be chopping and changing between by the hour and by the job. Are set prices the way forward?

    • PRO
      Not sure you can have "set" prices as every garden is different. The only time I have sort of set prices is with quick small strim mow and blow grass cuts. And even they are a bit different. Ie it takes ten minutes or 12 minutes so a pound here or there different.
      • PRO

        What about in terms of fencing, laying turf, slabs etc? x amount per m2?

        Had 1 lead yesterday, received an email me asking my rates as she wanted her front garden done. I asked was it landscaping or grass cutting and she said both, I said I couldn't really give her a price unless I seen it or even if she sent me a picture and what she was thinking? Reply was again about my rates and then she never got back to me when I again said difficult for me to say without seeing or what ideas. Frustrating.

        • PRO
          Tbh I don't do much fencing paving turfing etc. I don't really enjoy it if I'm honest and I also find I make more money with my maintenance round. Lots of people will disagree with me on that, but it works for me with my short days because of school runs. 6 hour days are too short imo for hard landscaping. I do fencing in the winter if any come down in storms only close board which I do at a fixed price per m. I try and avoid people whose main concern is cost now!! They are more hassle than they are worth. You get what you pay for as in everything!!!
  • That made me laugh.  The box hedge would take no time & the idea of charging per plant is bonkers.  He is clearly in a very affluent area.  I have been in this business a long time & I provide an all in cost to cover what I know will need doing over the year.

    Customers like routine & certainty.  It makes it much easier for them to budget if they get a set price.

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