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Does anyone actually know what the new laws really mean for the gardener that buys a plant and plants it for a client ? 

It seems you will no longer be legally able to supply a plant and plant it for a client without registering on the defra / apha database, possibly under multiple areas ? 

Also you will need to have a copy of the passport of the plant(s) you have bought and hold records for three years. 

Anyone clarify more to this -- or is it as the rest of the plant passporting issue -- no one actually knows yet - even defra/apha ? 

And yes this is within the uk - not EU to UK or visa versa -- its every single plant planted or sold via mail order/ebay / facebook market place etc 




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  • Talking to one of the nurseries I use last week, they were talking about all the paperwork and registers they need to keep. Every plant needs to be labelled and recorded. I think the responsibility is on them. They are the ones who grow / import. Have plant passports etc not been in place for years anyway? 

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      glen -- it looks like multiple areas are being changed -- you can buy from a nursery in the uk - but you have to apply for the right to legally then plant it in a clients garden 

  • totally unworkable isn't it...i hear planting by the light of the moon can be beneficial. and one is less likely to get caught that way

    • I didn't say I thought it's unworkable. Yes it is more work, but it can't be much more than was being done anyway is it (he says hoping he hasn't just offended all nurserie managers)? Surely all (reputable) nurseries and growers know what they have and where it came from, and keep a record of that anyway. 

      • maybe one of the few benefits of brexit will be a re surgence of small uk nurseries ... surely plants grown and sold within the uk won't need a passport, seems like bureaucracy gone mad to me

        • I don't know, may be I'm wrong, but I assumed a lot of it is to do with 'foreign' disease and pest control. Surely a good thing.

          But yes you're right, hopefully it will help British growers, rather than having everything shipped over from Italy 

          • yes some pretty bad diseases and pests out there ash die back etc .... the one i fear most is the killer asian hornets which could come in in the root ball of a large plant and quickly infest the u.k. due to climate change and mild winters etc

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          Billy -- no any plant grown in the uk will also need a passport and if you handle it you also need to be registered in order to plant it -- and you need to keep records of those plants three years as i understand it - including the details of said passport 

          • crikey well they better send the horticultural police round as i have been known to dig a few bits out of my allotment and put them in for a local customer and am unwilling to fill in all the forms lol

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    It’s a confused ‘landscape’ at moment.

    Discussions I’ve had with nurseries we use ‘confirm’ the responsibility lies totally with the trade outlet to comply with this.

    There is no ‘end-user’ action other than to keep any receipts showing ‘source’ of plants ( the receipt which you would have to keep for six years anyway to comply with HMRC business records if claiming as a business expense).

    If you grow your own stock for financial benefit, I’d suggest you would have to do as per nurseries?

    It seems unclear who polices this.....and suspect many nurseries are awaiting guidance / carificstion from the HTA & Defra.

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