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Laying traditional cobbles

I'm going to be laying cobbles in a drive after xmas, a welcome change to monoblock but how best to lay? I've come across people laying them in whin dust, letting it settle and filling up again - seems to be a long process. Is mortar a good alternative, or any other suggestions? They are reclaimed street cobbles so large and heavy!

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  • Kirsty

    I may be able to help if you give me more details, Are you thinking permeable, SUDS, soft landscaping run off, size, gradients, is the property pre 1920s, are you using edge restraints, Is planning permission the only option etc



    All these questions are crucial to the sub base material to use, compaction, edge restraints etc, once you decide which option your choosing then the correct materials, installation procedure and finish can be legally accomplished.

    Kerry
  • Hi Kerry
    I'm adding in drainage gulleys so will be slight run off into them, main area is flat up to front door, property is pre 1920's prob 1880 odds - was planning on cementing in the 1st row of cobbles as edge restrainsts. Cobbles will be whin of varied sizes which is part of the issue. I'll have to excavate and lay a sub base as its just stones on dirt at mo. They already have the whin cobbles on another part of the drive but not a large area so methods don't have to match. Re planning - its used as a drive now so its just a replacement not a new one. Hope thats all the q's answered. ta kirsty

    Kerry Jackson said:
    Kirsty

    I may be able to help if you give me more details, Are you thinking permeable, SUDS, soft landscaping run off, size, gradients, is the property pre 1920s, are you using edge restraints, Is planning permission the only option etc



    All these questions are crucial to the sub base material to use, compaction, edge restraints etc, once you decide which option your choosing then the correct materials, installation procedure and finish can be legally accomplished.

    Kerry
  • I've used Mjoint and Gfix before - is that the same thing as your recommending?

    Stuart Marler said:
    Try bedding, butt together, on a semi dry mix of mortar, then using a resin jointing compound, spread with squeegee and brush off with broom, job done.

    One day to point an area about 150 square metres, 3 men.
  • Hi Kirsty
    Be careful here as most pre1920s houses were built without DPC ( damp course).

    you can legally replace an area up to 5sqm, any more then the whole area has to be replaced with either permeable paving, correct sub-base, compaction and edge restraints, which must be on a bed of concrete from sub-soil to the underside of the kerb / haunching. (acting as a damn)

    check out the legislation: http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/pav...

    will the gullies fall into a soakaway, if so the soakaway needs to be 5m minimum from the property, check out Aqua cell units :
    http://co-uk.wavin.com/master/master.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534...

    If you are going down the SUDS route (gullies and soakaway) then the standard material and installation procedure should be undertaken.


    The compounds mentioned are excellent and time saving, however in your question you asked about traditional cobble laying,

    Then a bitumen pitch, stainless steel watering can will be required as the traditional method is to pour boiling hot bitumen between the 10-15mm joints, excess drips can be removed when cold.

    good luck

    Kirsty Blair said:
    Hi Kerry
    I'm adding in drainage gullies so will be slight run off into them, main area is flat up to front door, property is pre 1920's prob 1880 odds - was planning on cementing in the 1st row of cobbles as edge restraints. Cobbles will be who of varied sizes which is part of the issue. I'll have to excavate and lay a sub base as its just stones on dirt at mo. They already have the white cobbles on another part of the drive but not a large area so methods don't have to match. Re planning - its used as a drive now so its just a replacement not a new one. Hope that's all the q's answered. ta kirsty

    Kerry Jackson said:
    Kirsty

    I may be able to help if you give me more details, Are you thinking permeable, SUDS, soft landscaping run off, size, gradients, is the property pre 1920s, are you using edge restraints, Is planning permission the only option etc



    All these questions are crucial to the sub base material to use, compaction, edge restraints etc, once you decide which option your choosing then the correct materials, installation procedure and finish can be legally accomplished.

    Kerry
  • Are they cobbles or setts??

    Cobbles to me are what some people call duck stones.
    And setts are like the road you see at the start of 'corrie' square or rectangular blocks.

    Granite Setts

    A job I helped on last year.
  • They're as your pic - looks good.

    Big Dig Groundworks said:
    Are they cobbles or setts??

    Cobbles to me are what some people call duck stones.
    And setts are like the road you see at the start of 'corrie' square or rectangular blocks.

    Granite Setts

    A job I helped on last year.
  • These were laid on concrete with 10mm stone not 20mm and joints three quaters filled with concrete and then pointing finished off with slurry mix of grano and building sand pushed in by hand. Setts then washed and few days later the whole lot treated with a weak acid wash and then jet washed.

    Took 2 of us 2 days to point and another day to do the acid and jet wash.

    Just to add again this wasnt my job I only helped the main guy.

    Dont want to be accused of claiming for work that isnt mine.
  • After jetwashing

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