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HMRC real time information RTI

Raining again, so I thought I’d spend a couple of hours getting acquainted with the new HMRC RTI PAYE system, which is due to start in April.

Apparently, with 9 or less employees (that’s us) we can download and use the HMRC’s free basic PAYE Tool, unfortunately this isn’t available until 2nd April. Already I am losing the will and would rather be out in the rain!

I am sure everyone else is ahead of the game, so how have you found getting set up, any tips, apart from giving it to the accountant to sort out?!

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    Phil, we're now 3 months into running RTI (..yes, via the Accountants !) as part of the trial period.

    Issues have been ;

    - ensure all employees details are 100% accurate (even down to initials/use of nicknames). Advice is use employees Passport details :-)

    - any change of employee details has to be submitted asap.

    - You can not pay an employee in advance of RTI submission which causes several extra steps and subsequent admin.

    - You can not provide subs/pay advances as such (due to point above). Way round appears to be classify it as a Short term loan !

    - HMRC chase you sooner for PAYE/NIC due as they now know instantly rather than have to wait for year end P35 :-(

    - Heaftier fines for payments past the 19th of the following month (increasing in severity) once you go live.

    Any other issues are handled by Accountants Payroll software (Sage). We pay a fixed price per employee per month and its all handled, inc payslips. For me ? great value. I hated doing payroll.

    The beauty of electing to trial, is that currently we can not be 'fined' etc during this period, so come start of RTI we should know 100% how it works.

    Hope that helps in some way..

  • Thanks Gary. I was going to ask if I could join for say March to get used to it, but I have just seen from a previous post of yours that your accountant was part of a trial scheme.

  • PRO

    Colin, might worth trying in case they have now opened it up more generally - especially if it is going to plan?

  • Hmm, trying to understand all this myself before my dad starts working for me, I may aswell be reading French for all the sense it's making. It's made even more complicated because my dad will still be working in his current job aswell as working for me.
    Bloody headache really, I seem to have an intelligence block when it comes to any form of government literature.
  • PRO

    Andy, maybe this might help (...I know its more reading....;-)

    http://www.landscapejuicenetwork.com/group/the-hub/forum/topics/sou...

  • Thanks Gary, I'll have a go at that. :-)
  • PRO

    Preparing to operate PAYE in real time (RTI)

    From 6 April 2013 employers will have to start reporting PAYE information to HMRC in real time. You may see this referred to as Real Time Information - or RTI.

    This means that employers (or their accountant, bookkeeper or payroll bureau) will have to:

     send details to HMRC every time they pay an employee, at the time they pay them
     use payroll software to send this information electronically as part of their routine payroll process

    The links below take you to detailed guidance on getting your business ready to report PAYE in real time. You will also find links to other PAYE information you may need throughout the tax year.

  • PRO

    Real Time Information
    Starting April 2013:

    Real Time Information (RTI) is a new system being introduced by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) for the reporting of payroll information, which will effectively require employers and pension providers to provide detailed information to HMRC every time employees are paid rather than through the year end return. Under RTI, the employer will be required to submit information; including details of earnings and the tax and NIC deducted whenever a payment is made to an employee.

    Continue reading: http://www.westbury.co.uk/tax/paye-and-ni/real-time-information

  • PRO

    How is this scheme going?

  • PRO
    For us - to date no problems, mostly thanks to being on the 6 months trail of RTI thru our accountants. We have had the chance to 'clean' our employee data before the real start date and hence, hopefully not be subjected to any fines for late payments.

    However, come this week and it all goes live i just hope there are no 'volume' snags as 000's of employers suddenly wake up to the fact that RTI now starts and they all have their HMRC gateway details ......:0)
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