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    Greg I bought the new 41 Pro last year and was a bit itchy about committing to it, so I called Hayter and had a chat with their tech people about wet pick up. Was also interested to know of any plans to introduce a redsigned larger machine, they told me it was at least 18 months away - no more info was forthcoming.

    I guess it is a bit of a 'watch this space' scenario.......

    • Scott. Thanks for your reply. Quite interesting really. 

      I was at a dealer end of last year and they reckoned 2019 a new 56 pro would be out. Another dealer reckoned 5 years. I prefer to listen to Hayter though. 

      I can’t believe it has taken them so long to do anything. If it comes out in the next few years. It will be at least 10 years this gearbox shape hasn’t been out. First with the power house intel engine. With a useless bag. Then they made the bag bigger then the pro range came with the 850series engine with the same bag on the 48’s and 56’s which is silly in my opinion. Year or two they bought out the Honda inspired bag but haven’t solved the week drive components or the appalling deck design to allow it to bag poorly. Such a shame as the old side drive ones were probably the best Hayter made and companies still use them. 

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    I'm after buying a couple of the old Hayter 56s, the side drive ones.

    If they can make updated ones of those then count me in.

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      It wasn’t Hayter’s decision - B&S ‘end of lifed’ the side PTO engine with only alternative the Honda engine but that wouldn’t work due to licensing and the fact Honda was designed for full drive shaft to roller gear box.

      • What licensing? Anyone can use Honda engines. The 41 pro has one. Yes it’s a shame Briggs ending that type of engine. Effectively screwing Hayter. But the fact it’s been since 2005? The first gearbox ones came out. They haven’t changed the deck design atall. Changed a gearbox pulley or something and the bag but that’s about it. Shocking really as weibang develop all the time and from what I have heard from the managing director of weibang after 5 years they are now making profit. They tried all sorts of designs and now they feel comfortable and people love them. Except the weight. 

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          At the time Hayter exclusively licensed B&S engines for that range. 

          The deck design was changed for the current 56 range to accommodate the gearbox and that is why current range is poor in comparison.

          Never used a 41 mower in my working life so have no experience of them. Do they use the commercial or domestic range of Honda engines ?

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            Yes I know what caused it's demise.

            I bet Hayter were annoyed to be honest as you have to then seriously compromise a good mower design.

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              Other’s might not tho - comment was for general consumption ...

              We dropped Hayter’s from our fleet many years ago.

            • Probably were. The 48 side drive. 219 model. Was voted best mower of the decade in the 90’s. I have used the 48 pros and they are useless compared to the old ones. I know it costs a lot to make the new decks etc but Hayter need to pull their finger out as people are going to weibang and Honda for rollers. Also depends on what dealers stock but that’s the impression I’m getting from Facebook groups etc. If you use Facebook try to join “Lawn Care Legends” best group internationally 

          • 41 pro has the gcv160 engine. Not a big commercial one like on the Honda pro 21” mowers

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