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Hayter 48 poor collection

I changed my Honda HRH536 Pro for a Hayter 48 BBC as I found it much easier to handle. However it is absolutely rubbish at picking up twigs and leaves off lawns. The Honda collected most debris no problem but the Hayter hardly lifts it. I have the high lift blades on already. I have seen plenty of complaints about Hayter wet grass collecting but this is dry debris, I suppose it amounts to the same thing - poor lift. Any ideas? Thinking of changing it already as it was used and i wont lose much. What mowers do you recommend with excellent lift/suction/collection? Thanks in advance

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  • I've switched over to Stihl 655RS this season, awesome machine, all completely upgraded since switch from Viking. Plastic grass box and high lift blade smashes everything I ask it to. 

    • What have you used in the past Harry to compare the stihl to?

      I'm going to the dealer at the weekend to have a poke and prod of this stihl mower, probably to buy.

      I know there was a thread on here re tuned up engines. Have you had yours tuned up? Did it make a difference?

      I'm currently using a 19" lawnflite pro. I also use a customers weibang legacy 56 which I like a lot, but it's just a bit too big for daily in and out of the van use.

      Also what are the vibration levels like? I know my lawnflite is quite old now but the vibrations have got quite bad. 

      • Hi Glen,

        well, ummm, Hayter 48 pro old shape, Hayter 48 pro new shape, same with the Hayter 56 pro new and old models, Honda 21" Pro, Cobra 21" Pro, Weibang 48 and 56 pro's, Viking 655RS, John Deer 21 and 48 roller mowers and Etesia 46 Pro.... I also had a Kubota 21 pro roller but only on loan, the Hayter Pro 56 new shape was also on loan. 

        the Vibes on the Stihl are good, Most of my machines I have upped the revs on but the Stihl is running standard buddy.. 

         

        hope this helps Harry 

      • When was the blade last changed or balanced? I find most vibrations come from a worn blade, it's amazing how much difference a slight imbalance makes.

        I run Honda HR194s, which are the mower the Lawnflite Pro is based on. I've upped the revs a bit, but still within its limits. It sucks everything in its path, used it today in the wet and it just about fills the basket even when sopping wet.

        • I'm very pleased with it, it's been a great mower. It's just old and knackered, hence the increasing vibes.

          • Sounds like me.

  • Out of interest why did you go with hayter? From reading various threads and forums they are not regarded as one of the better collecting machines. 

  • I have had numerous mowers but now don't go past the stihl range, the vikings ( made by stihl) were just as good. They cram the rigid grassbox full in the wet, the only bits left are off the wheels when turning direction. I also use a big Alko  mower with a high lift blade for a couple of big jobs and this is great as well , with an excellent side discharge for high grass and a mulching kit  (not a dedicated blade) that performs very well on shortish grass. Looks like it's been collected.

    Both are well priced but the stihl parts availability etc. wins it hands down for me.

  • Never owned one but I'm sure it shouldn't be that bad.  Not familiar with the layout of  these but obviously the bag is reasonably clean?  Is the blade worn?...... Is it actually the correct blade for the machine?  it's surprising that the blade does lose some "lift" when the cutting edge is worn back.  There's not the smallest obstruction in the chute?........ I've had a small twig jammed in the corner of the chute and it seriously affected the air flow.  Is the underneath reasonably clean? There's usually a small air gap between the base of the engine and the "chassis" of the mower.......... is this blocked with old grasscuttings?  You might be able to raise the revs on the engine slightly which might help though you're then going faster so there's more grass to move... you can't win!    One last thought...... when you're cutting the grass, is there alot of clearance between thebottom of the mower and the ground? The blade tips should be just above the base of the mower............... if the blade is lower, thiscan cause problems as well  

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