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Electric Vans

Anyone out there running a small electric van for a maintenance business?  I am looking to get a new Kangoo sized vehicle and will probably only clock up 5k per year so an electric appeals. However, the premium for electric over a Euro 6 seems too high still. 

The cost savings for running will soon be eroded by the government protecting existing revenue from vehicles as electric become mainstream. 

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  • I'd love to go electric but I'm pushing out nearly 45,000 miles a year atm, will watch this thread with interest...

    • You drive 45K miles a year?

      For an EV car the fuel price difference (assuming you charge overnight at home and switch to a tariff with a good night-time rate) would save around £5,500 p.a. I expect Van would be similar. EV has less maintenance cost, Higher purchase price, probably lower depreciation, dreadful infrastructure for charging if you regularly drive out of range (unless you can do something else whilst you are waiting - emails, quotes, etc.)

  • I had a look at the reviews for the new vivaro earlier, it's looking promising, but will wait a few years yet, until there's newer tech at a better price.

    I drove 4k last year.

     

    • at the moment getting it serviced will be a main agent job there was somthing on tv last night about electric cars they rang 20 gararges about servising them and only one would do them but that did not include any electric work 

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        Only do under 4,000 miles a year and van is Euro 6  . It should last until i retire at which point i will get an E bike .

      • hopefully the only servicing would be to brakes etc as the electric motor/batteries do not need servicing surely

        • I doubt you'll need to service the brakes ... Regenerative braking should mean that a set of Pads / Disks lasts 100-150,000 miles!

          Last two cars have been electric, until lockdown I did 30,000 miles a year, and clocked up nearly 100K on the first one. Brakes were not even advisory by then and I can't say that I hung about :) I had it serviced at 50K miles (the end of the "everything" warranty), and didn't bother at all after that - there wasn't anything to do.

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    I fear that in the race to electric cars we are throwing out the baby with the bathwater. 

    Charging will be cheap, once you've paid for the installation but what happens when the government needs to replace the duty?

    Diesel. We were encouraged to buy diesel up until recently. It turns out the finer particles are now the problem, not the larger ones which are filtered. But petrol engines are cleaner than ever and research can make them more so. 

    Batteries. Mined in areas where indigenous people are being forced from their land. Plus, no one actually knows how to dispose of them safely yet

    Mechanics. Brakes and bearings are replaceable although very expensive insulated tools are often required with electric vehicles. Everything else is disposed of. Is that really green?

    For every new vehicle bought, somewhere in the chain, an older one goes to landfill, often before it's time. Again, is that green?

    Access to charging points. Flats, house shares, terraced streets? Is this practice?

    I like to think I operate as environmentally friendly as possible but I'm going to wait a while before consigning my 6 year old van to landfill. 

    Just my thought, obviously and good luck to anyone making the choice now. 

    • Should be hydrogen engine's by now. I would imagine the corporation's don't like that because there's not enough profit in it.

      • The maths for Hydrogen are not good. Currently Hydrogen comes from conversion of fossil fuel (electrolysis from water is not currently cost effective), so a lot of the Automotive push for Hydrogen is driven by fossil fuel interests.

        Take electricity, convert it to hydrogen, transport it to forecourt, and then convert hydrogen to electricity (in the car) to drive the wheels.

        Or take electricity direct to the battery in the car.

        "Well to Wheels" is 76% efficient for battery and 30% for hydrogen (assuming Electrolysis). Mind you, Fossil Fuel Well-to-Wheels is also down around the 30% - 70% of the energy in the raw crude oil is wasted :( - and then there are the emissions

        Hydrogen benefits are "big tank" Range, Fast refuelling

        I think Hydrogen is only going to make sense for applications which need "huge fuel tanks" because batteries would just be too big / heavy. e.g. Aeroplanes and Ships.

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