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Diesel Waxing

My Ford Ranger has been parked in the shade since last Sunday. Like most of Britain we've had temperatures below freezing for a week and down to -14 degrees at night.

I tried starting it this morning (it had warmed up to a a toasty -7 by then) and my truck showed all the symptoms of fuel starvation due to waxing.

I tried it again a few hours later at lunchtime (at -3) and it is starting with the ECU light permananently lit. This time it started and ran I left it running for 10-15 minutes to try and warm things up.

I'm guessing that it must have some summer mix diesel in the tank.

Has anyone else had fun and games like this ???


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  • the only trouble like that i has was when i was running on waste veg oil and i didnt mix it enough. i've never had trouble on straight diesel though. my gradad was a trucker and he used to carry a paraffin heater to warm the diesel tank if he was bunked for long periods
  • had a red top optima on my last truck and i think its about time to get one for this there brilliant batteries there worth the extra money


    Pro Gard said:
    In the past with tractors the guy I worked with used to add a measure of heating oil (kersosene) to the diesel, im not 100% on the ratio but it did work.

    I find that a really good battery helps, I have Optima red tops in both My van and the Navara and both run and start better in the cold than with standard batterys, Optima are expensive batterys but make a massive differance.
  • PRO
    My truck started ok it just stopped after about a minute due to fuel starvation.

    Back in the day (when god was a lad) I used to go to a garage owned by a guy who worked on Russian tanks in World War 2. He said they always used to add a bit of petrol to the diesel to stop them waxing.

    The problem is modern common rail engines have too many electronic sensors on them and I'd be worried about adding fuel and causing the ECU to go into orbit.

    Pro Gard said:
    In the past with tractors the guy I worked with used to add a measure of heating oil (kersosene) to the diesel, im not 100% on the ratio but it did work.

    I find that a really good battery helps, I have Optima red tops in both My van and the Navara and both run and start better in the cold than with standard batterys, Optima are expensive batterys but make a massive differance.
  • i had a twin tank setup with a dedicated fuel line and inline fuel heater, it worked good but when it got cold i used to have to mix it with diesel or run off the diesel tank in the end i used to run the veg oil tank almost dry and fill it with diesel in about november time and use diesel till march time.

    now i just cant be bothered and run diesel only

    colin said:
    veg oil has a lower freezing temperature to diesel so it gels up quicker in the cold, also when running veg oil you will be best to use a different filter or put in a secondary filter to be on the safe side

    Matt Brown said:
    the only trouble like that i has was when i was running on waste veg oil and i didnt mix it enough. i've never had trouble on straight diesel though. my gradad was a trucker and he used to carry a paraffin heater to warm the diesel tank if he was bunked for long periods
  • PRO
    Read somewhere if you are running straight veggie oil it's best to fit a small secondary tank on your vehicle full of 'normal' diesel for when you start and most importantly when you stop as veggie oil sat in your injectors is not good.


    colin said:
    veg oil has a lower freezing temperature to diesel so it gels up quicker in the cold, also when running veg oil you will be best to use a different filter or put in a secondary filter to be on the safe side

    Matt Brown said:
    the only trouble like that i has was when i was running on waste veg oil and i didnt mix it enough. i've never had trouble on straight diesel though. my gradad was a trucker and he used to carry a paraffin heater to warm the diesel tank if he was bunked for long periods
  • thats exactly what i did, i basically done the same as you do on lpg start on normal fuel run on lpg or veg oil, then 5 minutes before reaching your destination switch back to normal fuel. the system i designed and installed had a designated tank of veg oil and its own primary pump and pre filter and fuel line to a fuel heater then to a final filter then to a solenoid that switched between diesel and veg oil and it then went into the trucks existing fuel system.

    Paul @ Ashgate Garden Care said:
    Read somewhere if you are running straight veggie oil it's best to fit a small secondary tank on your vehicle full of 'normal' diesel for when you start and most importantly when you stop as veggie oil sat in your injectors is not good.


    colin said:
    veg oil has a lower freezing temperature to diesel so it gels up quicker in the cold, also when running veg oil you will be best to use a different filter or put in a secondary filter to be on the safe side

    Matt Brown said:
    the only trouble like that i has was when i was running on waste veg oil and i didnt mix it enough. i've never had trouble on straight diesel though. my gradad was a trucker and he used to carry a paraffin heater to warm the diesel tank if he was bunked for long periods
  • PRO
    Had problem with Navara similar to what has been posted turns out fuel filter full of sh1t hence the fuel starvation problem, a long shot but may be worthwhile changing fuel filter.
  • i've been helping a friend of mine prepare his new offices for a few days so i've been running the car, i like the fact it has a good radio, climate control, arm rests, heated mirrors etc but i do start the van daily and take it a spin round the block just to make sure everythings ok, and up to now i've had no diesel issues
  • Paul , i just spoke to my mates dad today whilst passing on a country lane,
    he was in his fairly new silver ford-ranger diesel truck (good condition)

    he said it would not start the other day (was -11 i think he said there).

    he just had engine 're-mapped' by a guy on a laptop and for £250 and has better mid-range speed,
    better fuel consumption when going slow too. about 3mpg better i think. hes 65 i think .lol

    do you carry 2 or 3 25kg bags in the back as 'farmers do', due to giving it a better ride ??? just read this last night.

    my $hugun has been fine starting mostly , one 1/2 sec hesitant start , and wwrrr today for few secs too. (-7 at 10am - i drove straight off to doctors after hot-kettle of water re-froze on windscreen) :/



    Paul @ Ashgate Garden Care said:
    My truck started ok it just stopped after about a minute due to fuel starvation.

    Back in the day (when god was a lad) I used to go to a garage owned by a guy who worked on Russian tanks in World War 2. He said they always used to add a bit of petrol to the diesel to stop them waxing.

    The problem is modern common rail engines have too many electronic sensors on them and I'd be worried about adding fuel and causing the ECU to go into orbit.

    Pro Gard said:
    In the past with tractors the guy I worked with used to add a measure of heating oil (kersosene) to the diesel, im not 100% on the ratio but it did work.

    I find that a really good battery helps, I have Optima red tops in both My van and the Navara and both run and start better in the cold than with standard batterys, Optima are expensive batterys but make a massive differance.
  • i doubled the concentration of my screenwash and it still freezes it doesnt thaw even after a 30 mile journey. i dont have heated jets in the van. the car has the same screen wash and i dont have a problem after a few seconds as that does have heated jets

    colin said:
    i have screenwash with antifreeze agent meant to be -10 and its been freezing and when i do get it to go it freezes on the screen so i have to stop and scrape it off again
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