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Bulk Compost

I am just about to order a couple of 1cu.m bulk bags of compost for a client. It occurred to me that it would make economic sense to order a couple of extra ones to hang on to to. Then, rather than buy 60ltr or 120ltr bags for clients during the year, I could bag it up myself. Better margin for me, better deal for the client. I have space to store them (2-3 max), but it is in the open. So, advice please:

 

Does anyone else do this?

Are there any storage issues I should be aware of? - although the bags would be in the open, I do intend to cover them to keep out unwanted rubbish and the worst of the weather.

Are there any other issues I should be aware of?

Are there any good deals around at the moment? Much as it irritates me, even in bulk quantities you have to go some to beat 120ltr Homebase bags at £6.99 each - does anyone know if it's peat free?.

 

Thanks all.

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  • Andy,

     

    If they have slow release in them, storage is normally 3 months maximum.

     

    Try Woodland Horticultural Company - no contact details as a mate uses them, but we don't as they use peat.

     

    Otherwise, for a peat-free alternative :-) try Melcourt for their Silvamix Nursery stock mix, works for us.

  • Thanks - I'll try Melcourt. Peat free is my preference. I'm after something general purpose, as I add my own slow release when potting up etc, so that should make shelf like longer (?). I was hoping it would last for up to 6 months.

    T & S Plants said:

    Andy,

     

    If they have slow release in them, storage is normally 3 months maximum.

     

    Try Woodland Horticultural Company - no contact details as a mate uses them, but we don't as they use peat.

     

    Otherwise, for a peat-free alternative :-) try Melcourt for their Silvamix Nursery stock mix, works for us.

  • With Melcourt we have found that you can spec as you wish.

     

    To kick off, we had their mix in 90 litre bags, 42 to a pallet, without slow release, then also added our own.  Just be aware, if you take bulk bags you have to have a way of taking them off the lorry and moving them, which is a fork lift job.

     

    As we had 17 pallets, they sent a lorry with a fork lift for free.

     



    AndyCharles-EnborneGardeningCo. said:

    Thanks - I'll try Melcourt. Peat free is my preference. I'm after something general purpose, as I add my own slow release when potting up etc, so that should make shelf like longer (?). I was hoping it would last for up to 6 months.

    T & S Plants said:

    Andy,

     

    If they have slow release in them, storage is normally 3 months maximum.

     

    Try Woodland Horticultural Company - no contact details as a mate uses them, but we don't as they use peat.

     

    Otherwise, for a peat-free alternative :-) try Melcourt for their Silvamix Nursery stock mix, works for us.

  • PRO
    I can vouch for woodland horticuture brilliant chaps so helpful and they do a range of products and I am pretty sure they do peat free products after a conversation I had with Neil regards the new regs on peat usage etc coming in.

    T & S Plants said:

    Andy,

     

    If they have slow release in them, storage is normally 3 months maximum.

     

    Try Woodland Horticultural Company - no contact details as a mate uses them, but we don't as they use peat.

     

    Otherwise, for a peat-free alternative :-) try Melcourt for their Silvamix Nursery stock mix, works for us.

  • PRO

    Does it really work out any cheaper to buy these bulk bags? The 70 litre bags (4 for £10) i find in the local nursey have the contents really compacted in. Are the bulk bags compacted down or just filled with loose material?

     

    Another thing i have noticed are those bulk bags are rarely 1M3, sometimes as small as 0.75M3 but still advertised as a metre cube.

     

    stu

  • PRO
    I understand normally they are packed at 1m3 and it looks like less than that because they are filled with loose material that then settles over time. I certainly know when I have picked up a dumpy bag from woodland and they have packed it whilst I wait it comes full to the brim.

    Stuart Brogden said:

    Does it really work out any cheaper to buy these bulk bags? The 70 litre bags (4 for £10) i find in the local nursey have the contents really compacted in. Are the bulk bags compacted down or just filled with loose material?

     

    Another thing i have noticed are those bulk bags are rarely 1M3, sometimes as small as 0.75M3 but still advertised as a metre cube.

     

    stu

  • Andy I've just bought 3 70 Lt bags for £10 . Last year it was 4 for £10 general purpose . On the bag it says Irish spagnum moss peat. I've bought this for years & it is OK.
  • Thank you for your useful replies - it has occured to me that the air in compost in a bulk bag would affect the amount you end up with. It is, in any case, difficult to compare suppliers as the volumes you get (or sometimes weight) for a bulk quantity vary enormously. A bulk bag can be a tonne, or 1000cu. ltrs. A pallet of smaller bags, however, can be a tonne or 1400 cu. ltres or more. Having smaller bags does mean that you can be sure of the quantity, as they are usually vacuum packed.

     

    Seems to me that there is an argument for some sort of standardisation here. The number of times I've heard a bulk bag referred to as a "tonne bag", no matter what is in it (topsoil or feathers!), are too numerous to mention. And a litre of vacuum packed compost is going to weigh more than a litre of loose.

     

    As if life wasn't confusing enough!

     

    I'm still in search of good  bulk compost deals though, if anyone knows any.

     

    One final thought - have you ever seen one of the multidrop drivers trying to get a badly loaded, damaged pallet of bagged compost onto a raised tail lift, then off again, using an ancient, wobbly wheeled manual pallet truck? Terrifying!

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