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Hi Huys

Just a thought to possibly get us out there quicker if you work in teams.  We have two non drivers in our team of 8 (4 vans x 2 staff) so I need to be able to get them from job to job.  Do you think it is feasable (and safe) to build a perspex screen bewteen the drivers seat and the passenger two seats so the non drivers can sit safely in the cab?  Coupled with other safety measures like ensuring the driver only uses his door and the rear doors and the passenger only uses their door and the side door to access the vans and tools and they use the same tools (no swapping) on a day to day basis before a deep clean at the end of each day?

We carry out maintenance of around 12-15 clients per day per van

Cheers

David

Sunshine Gardens

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  • Surly insurance would be invalid in an accident?

  • Providing your 2 workers in each van are "self-isolating" at home, can't see any need for it. 

  • It wouldn’t be a good idea to take the Perspex divider right up to the windscreen. That it would obstruct the driver’s vision.

    It might work if you built a Perspex ‘pod’ for the passenger, leaving the full width of the windscreen open to the driver. The screens at supermarket checkouts are just dividing screens, so I would have thought that something could be done that would be effective.

    I have been surprised to see the council gardeners travelling together in the same van or pickup. I have seen many utility workers out working close together and travelling in the same van.

    Recently, one of the sub-contractors who works for me told me that he saw two District Council guys arrive on site, travelling in the same vehicle together, just to inspect the play equipment [which is regularly inspected anyway] that is currently out of bounds and not in use due to the lockdown. Madness.

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      The current advice from Gov is that two people sharing a van is fine as long as you keep the windows open. As with the rest of this -- you can take gov advice but at the end of the day its what you are happy with. 

      • Hi Dan where is this advice on the government website? I've tried to find it but cannot

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          "If workers have to share enclosed spaces such as the cabs of vehicles, they should keep the window open for ventilation and they should be careful to avoid touching their face at all times. On leaving the enclosed space, they should wash their hands with soap and water for 20 seconds or more or use hand sanitiser when they cannot wash their hands."
          https://www.gov.uk/guidance/social-distancing-in-the-workplace-duri...

          Social distancing in the workplace during coronavirus (COVID-19): sector guidance
          Advice for employers on social distancing during coronavirus (COVID-19).
    • No I was going to shape the perspex up to the dashboard so there will be gap up to the windscreen.

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    I'm not sure it would actually achieve anything above them both wearing basic face masks. My worry with van sharing would further be maintaining distance on site and not sharing any tools. Easy to say don't do it, but mistakes happen.

    We've gone single man/van/site operations only.

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      the reason the gov has adjusted working recomendations is number one economy and number two the chances of picking things up from touching is far far less than breathing in a huge load of particles - obv as always gov recomendation is down to personal choice but social distancing is about reducing viral load -- 

  • The main risk from goverment perspective is transmission of the virus amongst the population not between 2 workmates. 
    The main concern is therefore transmission from your workers to whoever your customers are and they may be in vulnerable categories etc.
    Risks could be mitigated by wearing masks at all times or wearing masks at customer premises. Not perfect but any mitigation of risk for general public is the key. 

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