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16yd Ro-Ro skip V's Tarmac car park

I'm after a little bit of advice (as always)

 

I'm going to be doing a job next week which will require me to have a 16yd ro-ro skip ideally on the cark park of the premisis where I will be working. It would be placed as close to the garden entrance/exit as we can but on the car park. Whenever i've used skips before on customer property, I have always placed either plywood sheets or scaffold boards under the skip to protect the ground underneath.

 

The skip will be loaded with top soil only, my question is, Will scaffold boards be sufficiant to protect the tarmac drive when the skip is being unloaded and again loaded onto the wagon?

 

Does anybody have any experience of this?

 

Thanks in advance for your help LJN's

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    Yes, don't do it. Or if you do, make sure it's bl***dy cold (so the Tarmac is hard)

     

    We did this a couple of years ago. Its a pain to keep the boards in place and the skip guy got really nervous with us messing around out of his sight while lowering the RORO.

     

    We did it during early summer and the combined weight still left a slight imprint of the scaffold planks (admitedly it was there for 2+ weeks while we did a revamp of a business park and it was hot).

     

    Now we look for paved or concrete areas.

     

    Also remember the dragging action on collecting means the two metal roller wheels exert huge pressure on the tarmac (ie nearly 90% of wt on collection goes thru these wheels..)

  • Yeh its the back rollers that were giving me cause for concern!

    Somebody suggested to me that putting down metal plate, like you see used around roadworks, by my problem with doing this is, price, how do you move it, and will the edges cause damage to the car park anyway when were moving them.

     

    My thoughts were along the lines of plywood sheets down first, then scaffold boards down over the top for the rollers to run on. (like it would be that easy)

     

    I've attached a pic, the skip would need to go behind my van. I've also notticed now that there is also a section of block paving that the waggon would have to go over too!

     

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  • Could you drop the roro somewhere safer, and use a conveyor to run the topsoil into it? Unlikely to be cheaper than using several 6yd skips, though!
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    Stupid question, James but what are doing that is likely to generate ~16yrd3 of top soil?

     

    Are you using other machinery as well ?

     

    Is there not an area you can stack the soil on and use a Grab Away service?

     

    They are normally 3 or 4 axle vehicles and so spread the wt around a bit.

  • The job involves removing top soil from a large rear garden.

    I could always put the skip on the road outside the property, its just a bit further to transport the soil into the skip, we will have 2 powered barrows anyway.

    I had thought about the grab hire route, but there is a verge on the car park then a large beech hedge.

    They have quoted me £150 + vat for soil only in a 16yd, which i though was a decent price.

  • The barrows are off a fellow proffessional, so getting a good rate there too!

    I'm going to look into the skip prices tomorrow, see what I can re jog with them, and i'll also give my hire shop a call too to see about a skip loader. Just had quick look in the book, 1T  4-wheel drive, pivot steer, skip loading dumper  £75 one day, £130 for 3 day hire + vat.

    Do you know the normal widths of these skip loaders Gary? I need to get through a gate to the garden 1.05m wide!

  • stating the obvious, be bloody carefull with the skip loader, i drove machines on site for several years and ive seen so many of them go over, they are so unstable when you lift the bucket loaded up.

    i use clam shell muck aways all the time, if driver is any good there should be no mess or damage to site, by far the easiest, safest, cheapest option ..... in my opinion.

  • Id go with either the 6yrd skips or a muck away grab lorry, these are what we use if there is any more than 6yrds of spoil. if you know of a decent grab company then you could even pile the soil next to the wall and they should be able to get it over the wall, thus saving the block paving.

    Do you know how the blocks were laid as unless they are 80mm blocks they wont really like a 6yard lorry going over them.

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