Shameful request for free advice.... we're still working on the enclosed garden - well, there's enough room to still walk through the space fairly easily, so you know that can't last! I'm now thinking of fragant white flowering plants - already have a lavender and two wisteria (which we're not counting on flowering this year as they're quite small). I've really got a hankering for a gardenia - there's one called Kleim's Hardy which is supposed to work outdoors. Does anyone have any experience with this one / others which you could recommend? Will be in a planter and we don't have a greenhouse. Most of the advice websites I've found are from southern states in the US, which is a much warmer clime.
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  • Have tried Gardenia radicans in pot outside for warmer months, well watered and followed all advice, when in Cornwall. It struggled from the outset and then died. My only experience - and shouldn't be answering this when there is a specific request for 'expert' advice.

    Get a white flowering perennial sweetpea instead. Much safer
  • Thanks Pip - Fereday just said 'Excellent' when I read your response to him just now.... he had a perennial sweet pea when we were up north and I know he's fond of them - tough little b'stards survived the worst weather the pennines could throw at 'em. Expert / experience / experiment ... six of one, half a dozen of the other if you get the advice needed as far as I'm concerned!
  • Okay - that looks interesting - just googled and see Crocus sells Carpenteria California..... Quite fragant?
  • I remember when Kleims Hardy became available in the Garden Centres; had been trialled by the nursery (Derby's if I remember correctly) and survived happily at minus 5. Downside s that it's not particularly nice - very small and woody - not at all the same habit as the gardenias found in warmer climates
  • Nick, thanks - that's really good to know. I think based on that, I'll give it a miss and try out the Carpenteria suggested by KK.... and perhaps that perennial sweet pea as well!
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