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Buying a laptop in France with QWERTY keyboard I need some help finding a laptop with a QWERTY keyboard and I have very little choice here in France. I have seen some forum post that say you can buy a qwerty laptop from Dell.fr I have searched this afternoon but I could not find one. I followed the buying process through and when it came to keyboards I only had the option of AZERTY. I have been in touch with Europc based in Glasgow. They can supply many top brand computers that have been pre-ordered by customers and for whatever reason never delivered. They say that the machines are brand new but refurbished and have been inspected twice. Because of the time I spend on the Internet I want need a fast processor with a graphics card and a min 2G RAM. I use Google Docs. a lot so a word processor and spread sheet package is not an issue. This is the spec of one that was built for a client and available to be at circa 30% discount: Note: 5400 RPM HDD/HDMI PORT/F11 RECOVERY/REFURBISHED UNIT MAY HAVE SOME COSMETIC BLEMISHES Sell: 439.99 Stock: 2 SKU: 136294 Manufacturer: Dell Computer MfPN: Dell XPS M1530 Category: --Dell Inspiron and XPS Warranty: Europc 12 Months Return to Base Warranty (Grade B Stock) Description: These great priced laptops are the ideal buy for any home or office user. With a variety of screen sizes to suit everyone and a spec to match any budget or performance requirement, we are sure there's an laptop to suit you. Grade - Europc Refurbished (Grade B) Property Value Grade Dell - Europc Refurbished Model XPS M1530 Lid Colour Jet Black Operating System MS Windows Vista Home Premium Processor / Type Intel Core 2 Duo T8100 Processor / Clock Speed 2.10 GHz RAM / Installed Size 3 GB RAM / Technology DDR II SDRAM Memory Clock Speed 667 MHz Storage Hard Drive / Capacity 250 GB Storage Hard Drive / Interface Type SATA Display (Projector) / Diagonal Size (inches) 15.4 Screen Type WXGA Video Output / Max Resolution (external) 1280 x 800 Optical Drive DVDRW Drive Type Integrated Video Memory / Installed Size 256 MB Graphics Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT Audio On board Video Output / Interface Type TV-Out Optical Storage / Read Speed N/A Networking / Type Adapter On board Networking / Data Link Protocol Ethernet Networking / Data Link Protocol IEEE 1394 (FireWire) Modem / Type N/A USB 3 Serial Port N/A PCMCIA free PCI Express Free Keyboard UK DIM used 2 DIM free 0 Mini Wireless PCI LAN BG Wireless Broadband Slot Capable Card Reader Multimedia Webcam Yes Biometric Scanner Yes If anyone can recommend EuroPC and has dealt with them and been happy then please leave a comment. Similarly, if anyone has had poor service then please pop the reasons in a comment also. My other option would be ask a member if I can order on Dell UK and have it delivered to you and then onto me (with me paying for the extra postage) If anyone can advise on the best laptop in the £4-600.00 mark then I would appreciate that also.

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  • Phil - More than happy for delivery to be sent to my address.

    I think the Dell Inspiron is great but wouldn't like to comment on what spec to go for. A bit too techie for me!
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    Thanks Graeme

    If I don't get any joy with EuroPC I will be in touch.
  • Hi Phil,

    I would be very wary of a refurbished PC supplier.

    Last computer i bought was from PC world - which in France i think exists as PC city.

    I got a HP Pavilion dv6000 for 499 (and another one slightly more epxensive but same spec) that was about the spec you are looking for.

    I asked them for any ex-display models they had. Cosmetically, the machines might be scratched but functionally they have the same guarantees.

    If PC city is not an option (they dont supply QWERTY)

    here is a reputable company that make their own computers (assemble) from new parts at good prices:

    http://www.pc-sols.co.uk/pc_sales.html

    This is a local company in West london and they have helped me out in the past a lot.
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    Thanks Michael

    I will send them an email and see what they can do and possible take Graeme up on his offer to send it to me here.

    Regards

    Phil
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    I met up with Craig this morning (he is hoping to have telephone connection tomorrow if France Telecom do as they promise) and he told me that I need to speak to Dell UK (and not Dell FR) in respect of delivering to France.

    I did just that and I have to say that the service has been superb today. I used the live chat facility on the Dell site and told sales rep. Ritam Sengupta my requirements. A little confusion and delay when a a quote didn't arrive for the 17" screen but it was resent and I ordered via the telephone.

    I paid £80.00 to deliver to France (thanks again for your offer Graham. I opted for the Studio 17 and I was told its graphics card, processor speed and RAM were ideal for web use.

    I have no idea that I have really done the right thing because there was so much choice but the reviews seemed good.
  • Even if you've gone for the basic one you should be alright with that.
  • I am perhaps being a little naieve here, if so ignore me.

    If you touch type and don't need the keys printed you can easily switch keyboard layout, via the control panel in Windows.

    If you don't touch type then you would need to get a spare set of keys designed for the uk qwerty keyboard, cheaper a set of pre printed labels for the keyboard, cheaper still make your own.

    Personally I'm surprised considering the prevalence of pc's, I cannot remember the last time I saw a typewriter in the work place, that we still teach the qwerty keyboard and have not moved to a DOVARK keyboard layout or other layout.

    QWERTY was deliberately designed to slow down the typist to reduce key jams. Moving to DOVARK would make learning quicker, for those new to touch typing, produce less errors and reduce the number of incidents of Carpal Tunnel. Not sure about other operating systems but certainly in Windows you can set individual logins to set the keyboard layout to meet the individual need.

    On pc's where keyboards are easily swapped this would not be a major issue. Laptops may be a little more difficult, but would offering the choice of keyboard layout be that difficult? Or take that long for a store to swap one set of keys for another?
  • Hi George,
    With the amount of keyboarding Phil obviously does, I can't see stick on labels being very practical (especially on a laptop). Furthermore, there's the question of the Windows operating system being in the local language when buying in Europe and that cannot be changed in the regional settings. At a minimum, it would require buying an English version of Windows, formatting the hard drive and reinstalling. Not a big problem but that means you lose all the preinstalled device drivers and any free software supplied. Another thing that might be of interest is that most new PC's/laptops purchased today will have dual core processors and maybe very large amounts of memory. Using Vista Home Premium (typically preinstalled as an OEM version), only allows you to run in 32 bit mode (limiting for some applications such as multimedia) and also to prevent access to all the available physical memory. To run 64 bit (and consquently access large amounts of memeory), upgrading to Vista Ultimate is required.
    For what it's worth,
    Roger
    P.S. Is this discussion going to get upgraded to a Group in case there are other Office Equipment topics that might be useful to discuss ?
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    Hi George

    I do touch type to a degree but I also rely on visuals and I do agree with Roger about stick on keys. Although, as you say, with a desktop keyboard it is possible to change keys round to suit. I could get by with French software but again, I prefer English.

    I have ordered a laptop now and it should be here on Monday (according to the tracking page).

    All the best

    Phil
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    "P.S. Is this discussion going to get upgraded to a Group in case there are other Office Equipment topics that might be useful to discuss ?"

    Hi Roger

    I have added an office section to the forum. Please feel free to add anything either to this topic or start your own.
    Please feel free to start a group of your own at any time on any subject you feel is of benefit to the site.

    All best

    Phil
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