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    adrian April 2, 2016 at 4:12pm

    Hi Tom. I have my pa1/6 but have only used asteroid pro and relay for driveway and lawn weeds. Never used it to kill a shrub. I guessed it would i just wanted it confirming.
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        adrian April 2, 2016 at 8:56pm

        I find that asteroid pro is very good. Even got rid of mares tail!
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  Tom Smith April 2, 2016 at 1:12pm

  Pull it out with Tirfor winch?
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    Graham Taylor > Tom Smith April 2, 2016 at 1:57pm

    Pull it out with Tirfor winch...............complete with pipes!!:)       I would use sbk brushwood killer, containing Triclopyr, to the stumps.. glyphosate works as well but I find its not as effective........ to avoid any law-breaking, you cut it down, drill the holes and get the customer to apply the herbicide if you are not qualified!  Ideally, this should have been done in the dormant season however I find it's still usually quite effective. I cut it down to the ground and drill holes round the perimeter of the cut surface for the herbicide to sit in.......... this will allow you to apply a greater dose without it running off....... however the recommendations are to just apply to the cut surface which I find less effective.....you can then cover the cut surface with some polythene etc to keep the rain off, animals away.   Of course, if its a conifer, they don't usually regrow once cut down.......yews being one of the exceptions. 
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        Graham Taylor > Tom Smith April 2, 2016 at 7:58pm

        These are "off the shelf products" and although we might feel we are being deprived of a job, the"homeowner" is quite at liberty to use them.     "Get the customer to severely overdose an area with weedkiller"?...... can't see your logic here......it's a simple job entailing painting a cut surface and there's no reason to suppose that would happen.   Both these herbicides actually break-down in soil...... Triclopyr more slowly...... so  "might ruin the soil" doesn't really apply here :) 
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          Gary RK > Graham Taylor April 2, 2016 at 8:05pm

          I think the issue here is that most home users will overdose, ignoring instructions in the belief that a 'stronger mix' is always better... and that's where the problems occur and may subsequently cause soil / water problems which result in tougher rules, less products etc

          I'd simply remove any access for home users to buy and apply pesticides given a chance to change the law.

          For any professional to instruct a home user to buy and use is maybe a poor decision?
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            Richard Gadsby > Tom Smith April 2, 2016 at 9:39pm

            I think that the use of weed killers in general is being blown out of proportion at the moment. The truth is with the rules as they stand the off the shelf stuff is strong enough to kill stumps yet safe enough to be deemed safe for anyone to use.
            Another truth is that the chemicals available now are all relatively safe.
            I don't weed killers as the places I work I don't tend to have any problems. But I don't do clearences etc. I find a few in block paved drives but pick them out when small. And the other place is in boarders which need hand weeding anyway.
            I have to say though that I'm not against the chemicals
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    adrian April 2, 2016 at 9:16pm

    Im not sure. I haven't actually seen it. He just said he has a shrub he needs getting rid of. Its actually my brother, i suppose 'mates rates' is in order!