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with the recent  announcement as from 2040 you will not be able to buy a petrol or diesel car and it might apply to vans by then and the industry moving towards battery powered tools  do you think this will have any effect on there use i.e. the charging when out on the road I know battery's are advancing in leaps and bounds at the moment  will it mean having a plug in backpack which to me is defeating the object of cordless tools  also if you pull a trailer for rubbish or plant  are you going to end up at a charging point ? also with the loss of fuel duty and vat on the fuel will it be added to electric hopefully not household loads of implications but the gov will have come up with a plan to recoup there losses anyway the work side will not affect me as i have just hit retirement but i can see it will you young ones    


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  • PRO

    Knee-jerk announcement from the Government that has not been through through and has many 'holes' as a policy.

    The key phrase was no internal combustion engined vehicle, so Hybrid is likely to be were we're heading initially for 2040.

    The infrastructure needs to be designed and implemented first but with fast moving technology that could be a challenge

    It's 23 years and many, many Government's away so not worth loosing too much sleep over now......

    Who knows what the boffins have up their sleeves...

    • PRO
      Hybrid what though if no traditional engine in it?
  • PRO

    Im pretty sure by 2040 the vast vast majority of small strimmer hedge trimmers and pedestrian mowers will be battery. Maybe even hybrid ride ons? I have heard of research for trucks and lorries that will be electricly powered but have an onboard diesel generator to charge the battery(as more efficient than an engine directly powering the wheels), possibly the same with vans?

  • PRO

    I'm not losing any sleep over it as technology is quickly advancing and costs dropping. Already Volvo is committing to this in some form. We already have generators in some electric vehicles as "range extenders", and battery costs are going down, as can been seen by Tesla's new entry model.

    I don't think the big stumbling blocks will be vehicular, but will be infrastructure - vehicle charging needs a serious beefing up of the electricity network in both overall and "last mile" capacity. This will take huge investment and time...someone will have to pay and quickly to get the ball rolling for it to be ready. How long does it take to build a power station???

  • I can see myself investing in battery powered tools in the near future as my petrol ones start to wear out. Likewise, electric cars and vans will be the norm and will not be an issue for me to charge up as I got a drive way. However those who park on the road could find this interesting. I am all for reducing air pollution myself but this policy will require careful implementation.
  • PRO
    One issue to think about will the impact on Tax revenue. Which one will need to rise to balance the books ? Could there be a 'fuel surcharge' on electricity ? Can we generate the required electricity ? How many new power stations would be needed? Would they be nuclear ? Could they be in your area ? Are we prepared for all these impact ?

    Or, will someone come clean, open the vaults and bring out the efficient formulae for using water as fuel that has been surpressed ? Only joking (..... I think ...... 0)
    • PRO

      Well,when you look at the kind of free energy concepts that Nikola Tesla was working on around a hundred years ago and how he was basically shut out by the establishment it certainly makes you wonder!

  • PRO

    There will be some hydrogen powered vehicles, but the technology is a bit behind battery on this, so give that another decade or 2 on top of 2040. Again its the the infrastructure issues that are the hard part.

    The British Gas announcement on electricity prices is a reaction to investment requirements, citing green energy taxes. I think also we'll see more pay per usage especially in towns and motorways.

    At the end of the day, this is a good thing overall. What is hidden in the fossil fuel debate is the security costs to firm up our import supply chain on a global scale. Going electric diversifies this and puts us more in local control, with wind, solar, nuclear, hydro, tidal etc, with still some from coal, gas and oil.

    • at the moment we get some of our electric from France 

      on the local news tonight they are on about demolishing  Eggborough power station and ferrybridge has shut  although they are building a gas fired one next to it  

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