Lazy shirkers ? - No, young people just need to be shown how..... - Forum

By Rachael Fidler, founder of HTP Training, Southern England's top apprenticeship provider The vast majority of young people are not lazy shirkers. They may be shy; they may lack confidence and they may appear awkward amongst working adults - but in most cases that's just because work is different from school and no one has shown them the ropes yet. This view is backed-up by recent research[1] which reveals that 54% of young people in the UK would opt to undertake an apprenticeship if one were available to them. This figure increased to 66% among young people who were already employed but received no work-related training, according to statistics published by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS). Most young people want to make the best of themselves but have been let down as traditional routes in to work have failed to evolve as the job market has changed. They are not daft: When confronted with the option of long term university debt and high risk of unemployment, earning and learning takes on a far rosier glow. That glow is not the result of rose-tinted spectacles; it's the glow of potential being given opportunity to flourish and secure a nationally recognized qualification. Whether you like it or not, Britain is now a service economy and we as educators and employers have to respond to that reality. HTP Training places hundreds of apprentices a year; in fact in the last contract year alone we had over 1700 apprentices in training. Approximately 95% of our young apprentices go on to stay as permanent employees in a wide range of service based businesses: leisure, travel, tourism, hospitality, business administration, estate agency, health service - the list of industry sectors our apprentices secure jobs in is as long as my arm. We tailor the apprentices' programmes - the modules they study for and are assessed on - to meet the specific needs of the employer and the youngster, so please don't tell me that this is a worthless paper exercise. I have no time for the mealy-mouthed, naysayers who constantly seek to undermine apprenticeship programmes. These kids work hard. The employers are committed to helping them develop. We need to encourage and applaud the idea of youngsters earning and contributing to the economy - not disparage and undermine them. Industry has for many years now complained about how ill-equipped young graduates are when they try and enter the world of work. Apprenticeships work. More importantly apprenticeships help young people in to work. Yes, apprentices get paid less than the minimum wage when they start because they have lower skill levels and are, for a period, may need extra support compared to other staff members. However, they are on the first rung of the employment/earning ladder and this is why apprenticeships are increasing in popularity. Everyone deserves a good education but that quality education might not involve going to university. We are not all the same, we do not all have the same abilities but we do all have potential. Apprenticeships are helping an ever growing number of hard working, motivated, young people to begin to realise their potential. Original article : Kate Fox @ The Bottom Line

I can tell similar stories from over the years Steve.

From my experience, back then, is that the agencies and the job centre just wanted to place candidate to make their own figures look good. I even signed-up to a scheme for rehabilitating offenders.

The support we received post-placing was non-existent too.

But I believe there's now a culture forming that will see a new type of apprentice and apprenticeship emerging.

I think companies like Landscape Juice and London stone have an opportunity to assist in making landscaping and horticulture more appealing and, in time, better paid.

If we can convince potential candidates that they can not only learn about natural stone as a landscape material but help them learn the geology, history and supply chain processes then, I feel, will help to attract a much more interested, and therefore suitable, candidate.

Steve London Stone said:

Interesting article. Clearly Rachel Fidler has got to convey her industry in a positive light, but my experience of the apprentice industry is a little different. At the start of this year we made a decision to take on 2 apprentices. We then spoke to a number of different organisations, all who promised that they had lots of suitably qualified apprentices on their books. We then went through the process of filling out forms and creating job descriptions, fully expectant of a delluge of applications. Then nothing, we didnt hear anything from any of the agencies for nearly 6 weeks. In the end we were offered just 2 candidates, both completely unsuitable for the role due to them living too far away from our HQ near Heathrow.

So despite our best efforts and intentions we had to scrap the plans to employ apprentices in our business.

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Steve London Stone September 6, 2013 at 3:15pm

Interesting article. Clearly Rachel Fidler has got to convey her industry in a positive light, but my experience of the apprentice industry is a little different. At the start of this year we made a decision to take on 2 apprentices. We then spoke to a number of different organisations, all who promised that they had lots of suitably qualified apprentices on their books. We then went through the process of filling out forms and creating job descriptions, fully expectant of a delluge of applications. Then nothing, we didnt hear anything from any of the agencies for nearly 6 weeks. In the end we were offered just 2 candidates, both completely unsuitable for the role due to them living too far away from our HQ near Heathrow.

So despite our best efforts and intentions we had to scrap the plans to employ apprentices in our business.
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Phil Voice September 6, 2013 at 7:28pm

I can tell similar stories from over the years Steve.

From my experience, back then, is that the agencies and the job centre just wanted to place candidate to make their own figures look good. I even signed-up to a scheme for rehabilitating offenders.

The support we received post-placing was non-existent too.

But I believe there's now a culture forming that will see a new type of apprentice and apprenticeship emerging.

I think companies like Landscape Juice and London stone have an opportunity to assist in making landscaping and horticulture more appealing and, in time, better paid.

If we can convince potential candidates that they can not only learn about natural stone as a landscape material but help them learn the geology, history and supply chain processes then, I feel, will help to attract a much more interested, and therefore suitable, candidate.

Steve London Stone said:

Interesting article. Clearly Rachel Fidler has got to convey her industry in a positive light, but my experience of the apprentice industry is a little different. At the start of this year we made a decision to take on 2 apprentices. We then spoke to a number of different organisations, all who promised that they had lots of suitably qualified apprentices on their books. We then went through the process of filling out forms and creating job descriptions, fully expectant of a delluge of applications. Then nothing, we didnt hear anything from any of the agencies for nearly 6 weeks. In the end we were offered just 2 candidates, both completely unsuitable for the role due to them living too far away from our HQ near Heathrow.

So despite our best efforts and intentions we had to scrap the plans to employ apprentices in our business.
Bespoke Lawncare September 8, 2013 at 4:38pm

I am more than happy with my apprentice
Never late
Never on his phone
Never missed a day
Never had a job in two years till we gave him a opportunity