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Stiga cordless

Does anyone have any experience of using Stiga Cordless tools , particularly the cordless long reach hedge trimmers ?  

I was looking at buying a stihl cordless HLA56 long reach when i got distracted by a Stiga SMT 500 48 v multi tool comprising of hedge trimmer and chainsaw accessory in a showroom . 

What i like about it is the telescopic pole which feels sturdy fully extended , Alternatively its not much  for a stihl extension shaft to fit the HLA 56 . 

The stiga deal works out at more money than the Stihl deal but the spare batteries work out cheaper and fit all their other stiga accessories including stiga cordless lawnmowers . 

Main issue though is reliability and performance and i know stiga multiclip lawnmowers are highly rated  , I am not knocking the Stihl it ticks every box .

Any guidance appreciated Thanks .

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  • hi John i haven't owned or tried either of these particular units but have some different stihl and stiga cordless models that have used on jobs, depending on how much work you are planning to do with your long reach i would recommend the HLA65 over the HLA56, as the latter is from the compact cordless range which i believe is slightly less robust than stihl's pro range, still a very good unit of course, but one gets what one pays for to some extent and even the HLA65 can feel like it's struggling a bit if the going gets too tough, however if correctly matched to the right job it is unbeatable really. I am on my second one now having got good use from the first, which i cleaned up and sold it for very nearly what i paid for it after a few seasons use. As for the stiga cordless, made in china i would imagine, although nothing necessarily wrong with that but might be uneconomical to repair when that time comes, I have a Stiga 80 volt hedge trimmer which is a powerful beast for dealing with rough hedges that most cordless will baulk at but that one is too heavy for everyday use, the 48 volt you are considering will be lighter than 80v of course but not necessarily more powerful than Stihl's 36 volt units. The Stiga 80 volt are basically the same as the Greenworks and Mountfield systems of the same voltage, I am using a Greenworks branded battery in my Stiga in fact. I have had one 2ah battery fail after less than a year and another 5ah one arrived faulty so there is a question mark over reliability there, the 48 volt maybe a newer range and more reliable however

  • In November I bought my first battery kit. I got the HSA 86 and HLA 65 with two AP200 batteries and the AL300 charger. I have used them a fair bit over the last two months and they are very, very good. I wish I had switched over from petrol much sooner. There are Stihl offers on at present and with this and dealer discount [I have a long standing and very good relationship with the dealer I trade with] the total price was £745 inc. vat. So don’t be put off by the RRP as you won’t pay this anyway.

    I have a Stiga PWX 740 and it is my third Stiga mulcher I have owned, they are really good machines. But I would suggest that the Stihl battery kit is a better investment than the Stiga battery gear. For one thing the spares are so quickly and easily available. I did look at the Stiga 80v range but I thought the Stihl was better.

    The ranges you mention from both manufacturers are the domestic grade machines. I would advise you pay the extra, which with discount isn’t so much more, and go for the pro gear instead. It is better. The cheaper stuff always has the ‘anvil’ style blades on one side, whereas the pro ones have the double sided ‘sharp’ edges on all teeth. Everything is just stronger and the battery run times are longer. I have found the Stihl quoted run times to be accurate. The AP200 battery in either hedge cutter will do the best part of two and a half hours of trigger time, so with two batteries in the ‘deal’ that’s five hours of trigger time. The batteries re-charge quickly with the AL300.

    • PRO

      Thanks for the replies . It looks like the Stihl HLA 65 is the most appropriate machine . 

      I have a neglected Beech hedge to tackle in a garden where some of the vertical shoots graduate between 2 mm up to 25 mm , not sure i want to risk breaking in a new machine on this job or if cordless will have the edge on petrol . 

      I can't find any reviews on the stiga as its relatively new . It was described to me as same as the stihl HLA 56 which suggests it may be more suited to lighter jobs .

       

      • A good guide to how tough the machine is, is tooth spacing. Both the HSA 86 and HLA 65 have a tooth spacing of 33mm. They will cut inch thick growth, I cut some elders a few days ago that thick with them. I have a HS 56 c-e, which needs some tlc, but the HSA 86 will cut anything the 56 could.

  • I've just had a quick look at the stiga smt 500. My immediate reaction is that the motors for the tools are at the wiorking end I.e. away from the operator. This layout may be more efficient in terms of battery life but having that extra weight on the end of the lever makes it really tiring for the operator. Having used tools Lee this in the past I wouldn't go near it. They ate fine when the toll is vertical but just try doing the top of the hedge holding it horizontal. 

    • good point, usually the weight of the battery at the handle end counter balances this pretty well, unless it is seriously long reach. having dismantled various cordless tools you would be amazed by how small and light the brushless motors are these days, i certainly find using the battery gear a lot less tiring than using the conventionally fueled equivalents, after a day using petrol kit i used to feel like i'd been firing a machine gun all day in some kind of war

  • I use an 'Easy Lift Harness' so there is no weight in the hedge cutter at all. This makes all the difference as you can imagine. Every pro user should use one.

    I always use the normal hedge cutter, in this case the HSA 86, as much as possible over and above the pole cutter. They are much easier to use and to get a fine finish with. The pole cutters to me are merely there to avoid using steps in certain circumstances. It always amazes me to see someone, often on YouTube, cutting a normal low hedge with a pole cutter rather than just a normal hedge cutter. Why would you do that?

    The battery pole cutters [or petrol ones] are best used fairly vertically when doing sides, but as regards reaching horizontally across a wide hedge top, then this is where the Easy Lift Harness comes in once again.

    • yes definitely the standard sized hedge trimmer first, then the long reach. i also have the telescopic Stihl HLA85 which i find essential for the tops of wide hedges. Now that one is definitely a bit front heavy on full extension but manageable. Often using the technique of waving it from side to side from the top of the growth downwards to the cut level so the clippings are small and don't lay on top of the hedge and spoil the finish. It prevents the dreaded 'going around the other side' scenario as i can reach all of the top from the side i am working on. Reaches the parts other gardeners can't.

    • PRO

      Why would you do that?

      You might if...

      You only had one hedgecutter for all eventualities

      or as I often done

      to avoid the prickly thorns of Berberis, Blackthorn & Hawthorn

      and less bits & insects flying into your eyes,etc

      • yes good points there about avoiding the prickles i have even used my long reacher with the blade set at an angle to cut dead cow parsley stems down to just above ground level because they snarl up a strimmer dreadfully. saw some guy cutting a very low conifer hedge with a blunt petrol long reacher recently poor guy almost bent double doing the sides making a right meal of it very slow and with a poor finish. felt like stopping and handing him a hsa 86 to turn it into a 5 minute job. but one doesn't know how people will react to being patronised that their equipment and technique is making their own life a misery so kept on driving lol

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