• PRO
          Bear in mind though at some point you need to be pricing by the day and if the job doesn't fill the day the rate needs to go up.

          Be aware though I am rubbish at achieving a good average day rate and that is what it is all about.

          I smile when I read some of the posts on this forum when someone says they earn say £30 in three quarters of an hour , so they're on £40/ hour, no they aren't. If they only get three jobs done in a day they are on £90/ day, however actually that isn't a disaster for many people as it is possibly gross of over £20,000/ year for less than three hours actual work a day. Which on the face of it if you have a predictable work load looks great, but you can't mow grass every working day of the year and trying to maintain a predictable work load in the landscaping, grounds maintenance or general property maintenance industry is neigh on impossible, generally it is either feast or famine.

          Trying to maintain a target of three or four small jobs a day as a electrician, where every job is a one off means finding around 15-20 customers a week totalling around 850/ year and that's a killer.

          So then I weigh up establishing a mowing round and once again I found myself having a chat with a landscaper who has been there, done that and got the T-shirt. He was working at the same house as me hard landscaping having cut his mowing round to one day a fortnight just keeping on one commercial and several domestic customers, the hard landscaping for private customers is more predictable work and he is not waiting months to be paid for the commercial work. The window cleaner tells the same story, he has ditched the commercial work, one firm had had the windows cleaned half a dozen times before they paid for the first clean.

          So my take on it is you need to set a minimum daily average rate that may be lower than your actual hourly rates to cover unpaid nonproductive time.

  • All depends what kind of fencing what kind of patio and how much prep work is involved. Normally though the more fencing that needs to be done the cheaper per post and panel it will be up to a point. If I have to get two or three skilled guys in for two or three days to dig up remove loads of stuff from and prepare an area first, it's more difficult, takes time, involves specialist tool hire etc and is therefore more expensive. I find customers most often than not have pie in the sky visions of what things would/should cost (because they've watched a few 5 grand garden makeover shows.. ) and balk when told the actual figure is twice what they were expecting to pay and their original price barely covers material costs. Seems people hate paying for skilled labour, though would never think twice of paying ridiculous call out fees for a plumber or electrician...
This reply was deleted.

Industry Jobs

Mechanic & Service Support Engineer

Working with a team of dedicated hard working enthusiasts in the Grass & Groundcare machinery industry the successful applicant will be responsible for undertaking the build up, pdi, servicing and repairs of a range of grounds machinery. With a range of ability’s and attributes allowing you to work under your own initiative diagnosing and repairing

Grounds Maintenance Operative

GROUNDS MAINTENANCE OPERATIVES Our client based on the beautiful Jurassic coast is a successful, growing and ambitious organisation providing grounds maintenance services across Dorset and landscaping and safety surfacing throughout the South West. They are a forward thinking company with innovative plans to develop in the future. They are looking to recruit a number of


We are urgently looking for experienced hard landscapers capable of leading a team and turning plans into finished gardens. Immediate start and good rate of pay for the right person. We are members of the Association of Professional Landscapers and a Marshalls registered installer so an eye for detail and top quality finish are essential.

Team Leader landscape maintenance

Landscape maintenance team leader working out of Rusthall in Tunbridge Wells. Great opportunity for career minded individual as future development for the right applicant is significant. You will be responsible for maintaining the landscaped areas around a number of commercial and residential sites throughout Kent and Sussex. Work to include grass cutting, hedge trimming, border

Latest blog post


How to Revive a Worn Out Lawn

Is your lawn weedy, mossy, baldy or just plain tired looking? In this blog we’ll show you how to revive your worn out lawn and make your neighbours turn green with envy.


Ireland is one of the best countries in the whole world…

Read more…
Comments: 0

Trade green waste centres

If you've received help from the Landscape Juice Network and you'd like to say thank you, why not make a small donation?

The site is maintained as an indpendent industry resource and it's become an essential tool for those working in the landscape industry.

Thank you

Phil Voice

Founder Landscape Juice

Make a donation

LJN Sponsor




How to Revive a Worn Out Lawn

Is your lawn weedy, mossy, baldy or just plain tired looking? In this blog we’ll show you how to revive your worn out lawn and make your neighbours turn green with envy.


Ireland is one of the best countries in the whole world…

Read more…
Comments: 0

In the first of a several part blog that we are writing, we will explain some of the terms that are often used in lawncare service leaflets and by contractors but many of you out there may not actually understand what they mean!…

Read more…
PRO Supplier

Nothing but MM50 for Sportsturf Management

Following a successful trial, Jamie Foyster - owner of Sportsturf Management, has now chosen to exclusively use Limagrain’s MM50 grass seed across every single cricket square he tends to.

It is safe to say that Jamie Foyster knows a…

Read more…