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  Austin Powell-Allen April 11, 2012 at 11:17pm

  I think the way they talk it is aimed at people on there watch lists of criminals. But interested to read further into details that are not shown.
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  David Benson April 11, 2012 at 11:34pm

  they already do near harrogate vier one of the main fiber optic phone cables that crosses the country it will more than likely pick this message up depending on the key words ( mi5 braking my door down soon)
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  Fenlandphil April 12, 2012 at 12:25am

  109000 signatures so far.
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  phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com April 12, 2012 at 7:03am

  personaly i dont think it matters how many sgnatures are collected, the goverment already collect info on all of us, yes i agree about collecting info on the scum in this country and the terrorist, but they allready do it, it only needed to go through the court system so the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway
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  Fenlandphil April 12, 2012 at 7:22am

  "the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway"

  That's the way I read it too Phil.  At the end of the day the petition may make no difference but to coin a phrase I heard from an old lady forty odd years ago "it is better to light one candle than grumble about the dark".

  Politicians are always very short term creatures and never or rarely consider the long term consequences of what they are doing, the last governments PPI policy is a case in point. The danger with this legislation as I see it is the potential for misuse, not only by this government but a future one with a far different agenda.

  
  
  phil smith said:

  personaly i dont think it matters how many sgnatures are collected, the goverment already collect info on all of us, yes i agree about collecting info on the scum in this country and the terrorist, but they allready do it, it only needed to go through the court system so the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway
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  Marie-Plews Garden Design April 12, 2012 at 12:16pm

  not that I'm in favour of the bill, but how many of us already 'check in' to places via our mobile phone and allow / make use of tracking cookies when we're internet shopping?

  my point? we're already allowing private companies as distinct from government,  to track where we are and what we do & say - and there are probably fewer safeguards against how we can 'protect' ourselves on a daily basis from google and facebook than a government

  the potential uses and consequences of our ever smaller global virtual world could be really scary...

  and you thought Orwell's 1984 was a worse case scenario...
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  Fenlandphil April 12, 2012 at 1:08pm

  Correction: That should have been PFI not PPI
  
  Fenlandphil said:

  "the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway"

  That's the way I read it too Phil.  At the end of the day the petition may make no difference but to coin a phrase I heard from an old lady forty odd years ago "it is better to light one candle than grumble about the dark".

  Politicians are always very short term creatures and never or rarely consider the long term consequences of what they are doing, the last governments PPI policy is a case in point. The danger with this legislation as I see it is the potential for misuse, not only by this government but a future one with a far different agenda.

  
  
  phil smith said:

  personaly i dont think it matters how many sgnatures are collected, the goverment already collect info on all of us, yes i agree about collecting info on the scum in this country and the terrorist, but they allready do it, it only needed to go through the court system so the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway
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  Ian Olpin April 12, 2012 at 1:49pm

  Marie makes a good point.

  Facebook's data mining (data analysis) is well documented.

  'Free' Facebook makes a fortune selling information about people's likes, dislikes and habits to businesses and marketing companies already, all without users permission.

  Assuming we don't break the law, we're all just millions of faceless, anonymous names to any Government database administrators, it's not personal, and I'm not particularly bothered whether they'd be aware of my online viewing habits, or not.

  Unless they're keen supporters of Exeter City Football Club, they wouldn't find it very interesting.