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  Gavin Gray September 11, 2015 at 6:43pm

  from the other side of this i can't wait to challenge my boss on it!!!
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  Green Hand September 11, 2015 at 7:02pm

  If they are driving the work van with tools to site that is work and should be paid as such IMO
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  Paul McNulty September 11, 2015 at 9:25pm

  Such a stupid ruling. I know people who commute 2 hours a day to an "office", but now someone who doesn't have an "office" can claim travelling time even if they are only travelling around the corner to their first job of the day.
  
  If this affected me, I'd simply say to staff they have to travel in their own time to me, pick up the van, then they are working. If that makes more sense than taking the van home and going direct to site, then there's something wrong somewhere. :-(
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  David Cox September 14, 2015 at 10:10pm

  6 and 2 3's - a good employer would pay for travel time between jobs in the day anyway - The only difference is the start and end journeys home - but easily sorted if you make them come to a central point each day - Or give them some paper work to do each day for an hour thus making their home base a place of work,.
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  Craig Flatters September 19, 2015 at 9:22am

  If staff are travelling to and from site in a works van, with tools, they should get paid. Or else, how would you get your van and tools to site? 

  if you're in the van, you're at work. 
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  Gary RK September 19, 2015 at 9:35am

  There is a subsequent potential issue if staff do have vans and go to work from home - BIK.

  HMRC will look to see if there is any personal gain/use and may tax the employee via their P11D (for 2014/2015 the Van BIK is £3090 pa).

  It is not as onerous as the company car tax, but has increased over recent years due to people looking to exploit the rules with 4*4's etc (as a ST it's treated differently as you/business are one in the same).
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  MWJONES September 28, 2015 at 7:47am

  If you are not being paid you are not an employee there for how does your vehicle insurance cover your staff?
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    Green Girl Garden Care > MWJONES September 30, 2015 at 5:32pm

    I think you'll find they are insured whether it's during paid working hours or not otherwise they couldn't step foot in the van outside working hours which is just dumb.
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  Gavin Gray September 30, 2015 at 4:44pm

  Here is my situation
  
  I work for a big company who have many vans on the road
  
  Majority of vans travel directly from the employees home to the first site but I am in a squad that has to pick up a trailer every day from the yard and drop it back off at night
  
  Now our boss wants us to be on site for 6.30am and not to leave the last site until 4pm
  
  Now the majority of vans are heading directly home from their last site but my squad have to head back to the yard to drop off the trailer therefore I'm technically still working but I'm not getting paid from 4pm
  
  How does this affect me? (When you approach the boss he just says tough sh!t)
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    Green Hand > Gavin Gray September 30, 2015 at 5:22pm

    Are you at a fixed site every day? If so you could finish at 4 and make your own way home. If not IMO you should be paid from when you enter the van to when you get out at the end of the day.