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Repointing paving

Hi all,I was asked last night to quote for raking out and repointing off 680m2 sandstone paving. It's been down 10 years and mortar all crumbled now. Normally I'd wet point but this size of an area would take too long. I've never used compounds like Rompox etc and wondering is it much quicker than pointing and roughly how long it takes per m to lay?Any help would be much appreciated!

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  • I have never used pointing compounds, so can't comment on them.  My first thought was 'that's a large area', which means any mistake in estimating the price will be multiplied, so take care.  Make sure just how much of the pointing has 'crumbled' and can be removed easily and how much is still hanging in there and will need to be ground out. Are the slabs still set sound or will some have to be re-set? We ground out about 90sq m.of frontage because the pointing was of such poor quality workmanship, we ground out with a 100mm, 200mm grinders and chisels. Cleaning out was done with our Stihl blower and when pointing I wetted directly between the slabs with weak bonding applied with a pressure spray directly between the slabs, keeping the edges dry. Good luck Paul, I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice on here.

    • Cheers Colin! Yeah it's a huge area, 3 large Patios and paths everywhere so don't want to rush into it. Looking last night I'd say 50% has crumbled but I'm going to go back for another look! Slabs all seem well set still.
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    I've used both the expensive brands such as Gtfk VDW 815/850, and cheap stuff from screwfix. They all work well and save SO much time! But you must remember to follow the instructions and keep the paving wet until you've finished - this helps move the stuff around and prevents staining. The cheaper stuff tends to smell a bit at first, and leaves more of a residue to wash off.

    The last paving job was a mixed pattern sandstone 21 msq + sett edging, used two tubs of Gtfk 850, took an hour including mixing (a small sds drill with a paddle mixer). Done in the rain.

    The residue doesn't seem to harm plants or lawns, either.

    • Cheers Nathan was thinking gtfk or rompox D1, whichever comes out cheapest!
  • I can offer you a blinding deal on an alternative to VDW 850. We have a two part resin jointing system and it is £42 per 25kg tub comes in four colours.
    • What is it Tony? Is there a website I can get a look at it?
      • We will be adding the resin and polymer products to our website within the next 2-3 weeks. My email is tonyhuntbach@me.com. Drop me a line and I can give you more info.
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    I would suggest you use Marshall's weatherpoint. I think TP are doing an offer on this at the moment.

    3 Men should be able to point that comfortably in 2 days. Depending on the joints a tub should do between 6 and 10 sq m. If you are worried about the amount of resin you are going to use you could always give a cost excluding resin and then a price per tub

    • Unfortunately no TP here in Northern Ireland, not even sure if I can get weatherpoint here :-(
      I like the idea of quoting the resin separately could save a lot of guesswork lol
    • I've used that stuff on a test exercise for a client stained really badly as it's practically the same as the Sika polymer paving grout.
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