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Coming near to all our busy season now I will be needing a part time helper. I have found someone I worked with years ago who is like so many people, unemployed. He is a great worker and is desperate to get back to work again.The problem I need help answering is, as I only need him part time, the part time wage won't be enough to pay his rent and to live on.Is there a government scheme or help out there for him that would help him get his rent paid meaning the two days a week I have him, that wage would go on his bills and shopping?This is a subject I know nothing of so any thoughts at all would be great.I am hoping that in a few months I will be able to have him full time, but in the mean time two days is all I can offer him. But the two days work would probably only cover his rent, leaving nothing to live on. Here lies the conundrum.

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  • I believe that there are various back to work schemes available and again selective benefits still paid if working short hours. Best bet is for him to discuss his options with the job centre.
  • The biggest issue I find is that the benefit system pays so well that for an inexpercienced worker, they need at least £12 per hour on paye to get the same level of income.
  • Which leaves the question, why come off benefits if there is no incentive to?
    I'm annoyed because I know he could be a valuable person to have and keep.
    I may be wrong but I thought you could work upto 16hrs a week and still get help to pay rent etc?
  • I believe you are right Steve, I think any part time work up to 16 hours does not affect any benifits. Don't quote me though.
  • Don't get me started!!!

    Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance said:

    Which leaves the question, why come off benefits if there is no incentive to?
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    As far as I'm aware, whatever he gets paid under 16 hours a week comes off his dole.
    So for example if he earns £50 per week they will take that off his dole.

    It is by no means an incentive to go out and work.

  • I'm going to ring them to ask to see where he stands. Would be good to get him off some benefits and working even if it means he still needs help in his housing situation.
  • Hi Steve, check out the Citizens Advice Bureau website if you get a chance. The 16 hour rule I think just applies to working tax credits. I haven't had a chance to look into detail but there is a section on housing benefit and it does appear you have to be in receipt of benefits? Might be worth a look?

  • Steve, Welfare Benefits Advice is a complex area that is constantly changing.

    Your friend needs a 'Better off calculation' to see the effect on their bens. I'm sure there is a form on the hmrc website. This is a questionnaire that will take into account all his bens. As Jen said the CAB are a useful resource. They will use similar software.

    Be aware of websites that try to take advantage by charging. Stick to official websites such as hmrc or the job centre.

    Your friend needs qualified advice.

    I was involved in a welfare benefits advice project for disabled people a few years ago.

  • Hi Steve,

    There is no easy answer to this as the whole household income would determine the answer as would his benefit history etc but he may still ne entitled to some housing benefit and working tax credit. This sort of thing (in work benefit calculations) is part of what Perennial caseworkers do for a living, we are all benefits experts and if your friend has 3 years of horticulture under his belt he can approach the charity directly & we may be able in other ways too. If he hasn't then I am happy to talk to him on a personal level (not as Perennial). I will need to know how many hours he will be doing and at what rate of pay etc.
    Let me know if you need our help.

    Lins

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