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I need help with a floater!  

I've constructed floating benches before in wood but want to do one that projects from a rendered wall and is rendered itself. I've been thinking around lintels or some sort of cantilever idea but can't pin anything down. 

Just wondered if anyone else had built something similar?

The basic set up will be an L shaped rendered raised flower bed sitting into a corner of the space. and from the front of this bed I'd like to have a floating bench - hope that makes sense, and would appreciate any ideas.

 

many thanks

 

 

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  • are you thinking like this?
  • Pro Designer

    Hi Richard

    Funnily enough I am designing something very similar for a courtyard garden in London - a cantilevered timber corner bench in rendered raised beds - and would appreciate any advice on construction. Is there a metal frame to support this bench? Really like your work.

    Thanks

    Jenny


    Richard Matthews said:

    are you thinking like this?
  • Could I suggest a different apporach, a real "floating" bench on water using a pontoon. Worth contacting Chris Murphy, MD of Pontoonworks:   They sell an Austrian product called JetFloat, which can be part filled with water and "anchored" to the bottom of a lake / pond to create a wonderful secure and safe "floating bench".  Do mention my name if you like as I know him. Hope you like this alternative suggestion.

    Yours

     

    Stephen

  • the rear of the square timber is fixed to simply some joist hangers which in turn are built into the wall. the front just sits on the block work. had no problems yet! i will wait for others to slate the way i have done that now!
    Jenny Bloom said:

    Hi Richard

    Funnily enough I am designing something very similar for a courtyard garden in London - a cantilevered timber corner bench in rendered raised beds - and would appreciate any advice on construction. Is there a metal frame to support this bench? Really like your work.

    Thanks

    Jenny


    Richard Matthews said:

    are you thinking like this?
  • Wooden one's not a problem but this ideally needs to be all rendered. RSJ's is a good thought - thanks Paul I'll have a look into that.
  • Pro Designer
    Thanks Richard - joist hangers sound like a simple cost-effective solution.
  • funnily enough i'm having the same problem lol looks like were going to build a steel frame hidden by a timber seat, sorry the pics so small

     

  • Sorry to bring back an old topic, but as I am asking a similar question to what this thread is about, it seemed the sensible thing to do.

    Next year, I have a project where I am creating a garden similar to the photo below, with a small sawn sandstone patio and a rendered block wall. As the patio is quite small due to size restrictions, I had the idea of creating a floating hardwood bench to create an extra seating area.

    The wall is around 1m long and will be somewhat like the one in this attachment.

    Can someone help me with how to fix the bench without noticeable fixings to create the floated look like the blow photo?

    ]FL1

    Much appreciated,
    Dean.

  • You could use solid round bars say 30mm diameter long enough to fit into the seat timbers and to be cemented into the wall during construction. Have them cross drilled in a couple of places to allow a screw to pass through them, weld plates onto the other end of the bars to help sprag them into the wall have the bars galvanised. Drill the timbers to accept the pins with fixing holes drilled to align with the holes in the bars insert the bars into the seat timbers and build the wall concreting the bars in as you go (the seat timbers will need to be supported until the wall is finished).

    Alternatively don't weld plates onto the bars, build the wall first offer the bench up to the required position drill the wall to take the pins fill the holes in the wall with resin anchor insert the bars and allow the resin to set. 

    I hope this is of use.
     
    Dean Giggins said:

    Sorry to bring back an old topic, but as I am asking a similar question to what this thread is about, it seemed the sensible thing to do.

    Next year, I have a project where I am creating a garden similar to the photo below, with a small sawn sandstone patio and a rendered block wall. As the patio is quite small due to size restrictions, I had the idea of creating a floating hardwood bench to create an extra seating area.

    The wall is around 1m long and will be somewhat like the one in this attachment.

    Can someone help me with how to fix the bench without noticeable fixings to create the floated look like the blow photo?

    ]FL1

    Much appreciated,
    Dean.

  • Thanks for the response Phil.

    I understand what you are saying and that seems like one option. Sounds similar to the below photo:

    I still think there must be another way though.

    As you can see from the second photo I submitted in my earlier post, it seems to me that the bench has been 'boxed in' at the front to hide the fixing that is being supported off of the block wall.

    I have spent hours looking through Google but still can't find the answer. Plenty of companies are creating these floating benches, so it must be a pretty straight forward solution.

    I am now even more keen to try and find out the correct way of making these floating benches.

    If you have any other ideas Phil, or if anyone else can supply me with some info, it would be greatly appreciated.

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