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Hi guys and girls.

My names Axel and I work for a company promoting the Aspen brand of clean fuels in the UK.

Aspen is an Alkylate petrol designed for small garden machinery where users are subject to large amounts of emissions and contains no benzene, sulphor or aromatic hydrocarbons which are plentiful in regular petrol made for cars.

Alkylate fuel is very popular in the rest of europe, but is a relatively new product in the UK.

Apart from the health aspects Alkylate petrol has many other advantages over regular unleaded.

These include:

No shelf life - meaning you can leave fuel in the machines and not have to worry about the fuel going stale.

comes in ready mixed 2 stroke and 4 stroke versions - pre mixed means no more getting mixtures wrong and potentially damaging machines.

Alkylate petrol is Cleaner burning meaning less carbon build up and wear on the internals of the machine.

A fuel without solvents means no more horrible smells in the van when transporting.

this is the first time posting on landscape Juice and I want to get an idea of how many people in the landscape industry are aware of our products so please give me some feedback of your experience or if you have any questions then please fire them away!

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    I am aware but there is no one locally who can supply me regularly - I do not want to be storing 100's of litres of fuel in my yard...

    It is also extremely expensive when compared to unleaded from the pumps.

    Nick
  • Hi nick, where abouts do you live? we have quite a few dealers around the country now and if there is no one near you then i will do my best to find a shop who can supply you.

     

    As for it being extremely expensive, it all depends on how you look at it. Most customers of ours usually say they dont notice the extra cost once they actually start using it or say the benefits outweigh the costs.

     

    how many litres of fuel do you get through a day in your machines?

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    Nick I've been aware of the benefits of this product for a while (it's sold here in France). If treated as a cost of sale I don't think you should worry about the price but think of the benefits to your machinery and your health.

     

    How many of us have worked on a closely clipped yew or conifer hedge and inhaled thick blue petrol fumes for most of the day?  

     

     


    NMGS said:

    I am aware but there is no one locally who can supply me regularly - I do not want to be storing 100's of litres of fuel in my yard...

    It is also extremely expensive when compared to unleaded from the pumps.

    Nick
  • PRO

    Dear Axel

     

    I live in South Bucks, SL2 Postcode. I used around 60L of unleaded last month.

     

    Nick

     

     

  • PRO

    Hi Axel,

     

    Thanks for the informative post.

     

    I like it when I find out something new, especially via LJN !

     

    Does it behave the the same (mix rates) etc if we want to mix our own 2 stroke fuel. We tend to use Stihl Pro/Super oil (the green two stroke oil) as it gives less emission and you don't smell at the end of the day (also Stihl state it's their preferred product for 4-Mix engines).

     

    How about suppliers in GU9 - Farnham/Guildford Surrey ?

     

    Would certainly be interested in finding out more....

    • Hi Gary,

      I'snt stihls motomix available in Great Britian? Its pretty much the same thing as above.The general guides I have been given here in Belgium is to use the stihl hp super low smoke,very impressed, during the season and the moto mix / alko lyte products for winter storage or for other periods during machines being idle.From the 5 or so suppliers I deal with here from stihl ,Echo John Deere etc , none have reccomended using the produts straight .The reason has been based soley on costs. I approximated roughly the cost per day at €6 -8per day for the pertrol oil mix compared to €20 for the alkolyte.Based on a 8-9 hr use on one petrol hedgecutter per day. Thats my experience anyway.
  • Hi

    I use around 50 to 60 Liters a month  

    I live in the PR post code (any suppliers?)

    What is the ball park cost per liter?

  • I do supply it.  However too many people seem to get hung up on the cost.  The way I see it is that if I become ill due to inhalation of emissions causing a respiritory disease or cancer no cost would have been too much!

    If you read the previous thread that Stuart earlier referred to (GL services) you'll see more of my thinking. 

    Also, to update figures - in 12 months I have used 28 cans/240L of Aspen 2T, bear in mind I use it in all 2 stroke machines and often have a 2nd man working for me.

    I don't use it in mowers as the exhaust is a lot further away from my body. (Useful as I use far more fuel in them than 2 stroke machines :)) )

     

    Andy

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    You're looking at it the wrong way Dan!  How much would it cost you if you were off work for, even just 5 days a month with a chest complaint in a few years?

    It is costing me for 240l/pa about £750, using regular unleaded would be about £350.  (Just in 2 stroke machines). 

    This works out at an extra cost of £400pa, based on a 30week year at 40hrs/wk extra cost ph is only about 30 pence an hour.

    Think long term, not short term! ;)

  • if you buy the Aspen 4 (blue can) then you can mix it with your stihl oil at the exact same ratio and if mixed correctly will then provide the same performance as the Aspen 2 which is mixed at 50:1 from the factory with Aspens own Fully synthetic bio degradable oil.




    Gary RK said:

    Hi Axel,

     

    Thanks for the informative post.

     

    I like it when I find out something new, especially via LJN !

     

    Does it behave the the same (mix rates) etc if we want to mix our own 2 stroke fuel. We tend to use Stihl Pro/Super oil (the green two stroke oil) as it gives less emission and you don't smell at the end of the day (also Stihl state it's their preferred product for 4-Mix engines).

     

    How about suppliers in GU9 - Farnham/Guildford Surrey ?

     

    Would certainly be interested in finding out more....

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